How much is too much leakage

check your pms as I tried to pm you what I saw /did as I looked at the source code and pm me back if you have questions

from the swift manual on page 11 of the pdf
http://www.resmed.com/en-us/products/se ... er_mul.pdf



Pressure
(cm H2O)
Flow
(L/min)
4 20
8 29
12 37
16 43
20 49

Jules got your message

Thanks again

you're welcome - I edited my post above to include the manual information for your mask

Here is another one, I only played with the mask in the first hour. I guess the question is can I trust the AHI, VS, OA, H with this kind of leakage.

Thanks for the mask info, but I already have it

Thanks everyone all their help

elader wrote: Are you a machine???

....ooooooH, BoRis, please, do not hate me because I am flat,
.....and you are not.

carbonman wrote:

elader wrote: Are you a machine???

....ooooooH, BoRis, please, do not hate me because I am flat,
.....and you are not.

Show off

But seriously, I think a relatively flat leak line is achievable for most, assuming that the mask fits well and mouth leaks have been eliminated. (or is that wishful thinking?). Elader: haven't you tried the duct tape yet???

Dorourke: You are right, it is hard to trust AHI numbers if you're getting large leaks. The machine just won't pick up an event in those cases.

My hunch is that you're mouth breathing, or you have bad hose management so that when you move around at night the hose pulls on the mask and dislodges it, causing leaks. If you've got a good hose management system, then I would investigate the mouth breathing/leaking. If you can try taping or a chinstrap for a few nights, you will have a good idea whether it's the mouth breathing. Or just try to get a FFM from your DME.

echo wrote: Show off

......no brag, just fact.

echo wrote: But seriously, I think a relatively flat leak line is achievable just try to get a FFM from your DME.

You said it, I didn't...........no one listens to me,
I'm just a newbie.

IMHO - no can trust the data - I have seen worse even out of me.

I suggest you look at lab rat fixes for the Swift mask and see if you can get one of them to help.

lab rats see then search for swift on that page

viewtopic.php?t=15104

carbonman wrote:You said it, I didn't...........no one listens to me,
I'm just a newbie.

Not anymore you're not! Man up and take responsibility man.
I think plenty of people listen to you (or at least, they look up to your realllly flat leak line Have you seen mine?? ).

echo wrote:

carbonman wrote:

elader wrote: Are you a machine???

....ooooooH, BoRis, please, do not hate me because I am flat,
.....and you are not.

Show off

But seriously, I think a relatively flat leak line is achievable for most, assuming that the mask fits well and mouth leaks have been eliminated. (or is that wishful thinking?). Elader: haven't you tried the duct tape yet???

.

The tape made ZERO difference in my leak curve, but really damaged my psyche since my wife says she prefers me that way. I am thus assuming that unflatness is the mask. My friend from work found a really great apria DMA about 40 miles form here. I think I will visit them and see if we can't find a better fitting mask.

I am going to try the teflon tape(plumber's tape) on the hose joint tonight, if that doesn't show major improvement, I am going to try the denture grip strips on the lips tomorrow night. I have only have had the software/card reader since late Friday to begin evaluating the results. I have had issues with hose management when I first got the machine. I would try to roll over in my sleep get caught up with the hose and take the mask off in my sleep. I had no idea how long I had the mask on each night and wasn't feeling any better. It turns out that I was ripping the mask off after less than 2 hours use every night. My wife just happened to be awake when this occurred one night and told me what had happened, since then I have always try to have a lot of play in the hose, I should probably put up some kind of suspension hanger for it.

Thanks for the reply

anchoring the mask helps - I used a piece of elastic (thin) between the triangles around the base of my head to anchor it - I could turn over and not dislodge the nasal pillows

there is a SVH lab rat award where she changed the angle of the headgear using safety pins

the teflon (or paper first aid) tape will help but you might not have a good seal on mask on your nose and these things are a lot cheaper to try than buying a whole new mask

Here are plenty of ideas on DIY hose managment: LINKS to Hose hangers and methods of managing the air hose
(I hang mine from a rope dangling from the ceiling).

Elader: Methinks ya gotta ditch the "comfort" series.

dorourke wrote:.....if that doesn't show major improvement, I am going to try ......

dorourke, this is exactly what worked for me.
I listened to the collective knowledge here, and I tired stuff....
I thought about my own fixes and I tired stuff....
if I thought something would help, I tried it,

and when something didn't work, I didn't hesitate to try more stuff.

I don't let any person or circumstance deny me the absolute best therapy possible.

Now, it's all become an enjoyable habit, because I know I'm going to sleep,
and dream and have a new, wonderful life the next day.

You will too.
It's your life.
It's my life.

It's a journey.

elader wrote: The tape made ZERO difference in my leak curve, but really damaged my psyche since my wife says she prefers me that way.

.....took me a minute.....but.....yea.....you're a sick pup......

elader wrote:I am thus assuming that unflatness is the mask.

This is the way it worked for me.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34880&p=299174&hili ... r+#p298811

Since that post, I have gone back to the UMmed.
Hope this helps.