heated hose falling off

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georgepds
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heated hose falling off

Post by georgepds » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:20 pm

I bought the heatred hose from the Australian vendor, and it works as advertised.. no more rainout. The problem is it lacks the "latch" that catches the corresponding latch on the mask, and falls off at night ( unlike the ordinary unheated hose that has the latch and does not fall off the mask).

Has anyone else noted this problem? Did I get a hose with defective ends? Are there any work arounds?

TIA

--G

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by BeanMeScot » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:36 pm

My hose doesn't have any latch. It has a flexible coupling that you wiggle on the machine and the mask hose.

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by CollegeGirl » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:44 pm

The latch you're talking about is not part of the hose - it's part of the mask. Your old hose is just the flexible gray tubing. Take the "latch" part out of your old tubing, and put it on your new hose.
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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by georgepds » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:50 pm

CollegeGirl wrote:The latch you're talking about is not part of the hose - it's part of the mask. Your old hose is just the flexible gray tubing. Take the "latch" part out of your old tubing, and put it on your new hose.
Thanks.. I was wondering if you could do that. I've never tried to pull off the hose coupling ( i.e. end fixture with latch) . Have you don it? Any tips?

TIA

--G

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by TerryB » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:41 am

While grasping the hose by the soft, flexible ring, wiggle the end of the hose gently while pulling, it should slide off without much force.
I would recommend for sure that you remove the hose and latch from the mask so that you are not pulling on the mask structure.

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by georgepds » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:49 am

[quote="TerryB"]While grasping the hose by the soft, flexible ring, wiggle the end of the hose gently while pulling, it should slide off without much force.../quote]

Thanks Terry, but I think you may have misunderstood the original question. The problem is the heated hose slides off too easily. The (F) hose coupling should have an indentation to capture the "latch" on the mating (M) coupling on the mask. The coupling provided lacks any such indentation and slides off too easily.

There is no danger of damaging the mask. There is the problem of lack of sleep devoted to pushing the thing back on 5 or more times each night. This problem could be avoided had the vendor used the proper hose coupling (provided on ordinary non-heated hoses).

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by Needsdecaf » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:56 pm

georgepds wrote:
TerryB wrote:While grasping the hose by the soft, flexible ring, wiggle the end of the hose gently while pulling, it should slide off without much force.../quote]

Thanks Terry, but I think you may have misunderstood the original question. The problem is the heated hose slides off too easily. The (F) hose coupling should have an indentation to capture the "latch" on the mating (M) coupling on the mask. The coupling provided lacks any such indentation and slides off too easily.

There is no danger of damaging the mask. There is the problem of lack of sleep devoted to pushing the thing back on 5 or more times each night. This problem could be avoided had the vendor used the proper hose coupling (provided on ordinary non-heated hoses).
I think that it is you who is mis-understanding.

The couplings that are on the end of heated hoses as well as non-heated hoses have no catches or latches. They are a rubber sleeve that slips over the ends of either the swivel that is attached to the mask, or the short hose that is attached to the mask.

There is no mechanical catch, it is simply held on by friction.

Your profile indicates you are using an Ultra Mirage II. I have this mask (want a spare, never used it). There is no mechanical latch on the mask. As shown in this picture, the end of the heated hose simply slides onto the gray part at the bottom of the swivel.

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Is your mask missing the swivel and maybe you have just put the hose onto the coupling where the swivel is supposed to go? Did you perhaps remove the swivel from the mask and leave it attached to your old, unheated hose, thinking it was part of the hose and not part of the mask?

If so, it should be part of the mask, not the hose. The hose just slides onto the bottom of the swivel.

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by georgepds » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:09 pm

Thanks for the note decaf

"There is no mechanical latch on the mask. As shown in this picture, the end of the heated hose simply slides onto the gray part at the bottom of the swivel."

The picture you are showing has a gray hose fitting over the end of the swivel clamp. Perhaps this is the piece that is missing.

I'm talking about the clear plastic end of the swivel that latches to the illustrated gray coupling shown. There is a mechanical latch. I'm doing this from memory, so some details may be incorrect, I'll look more closely when I get home. If you look carefully at the end of the swivel, the (M) hose clamp has a lip that is designed to catch on the corresponding lip/indentation on the (F) hose clamp.

Perhaps the problem is the mask should have that gray fitting shown in the picture, and it does not. Maybe that's the piece I'm missing, and maybe I just slipped it off on the unheated hose.

--G

(There is definitely a difference between hose couplings. For one, the unheated hose does not fall off and the heated one does;) For the other the materials are different, the heated hose clamp made of a soft pliable material, the unheated hose of a more rigid plastic. I've never done it but I'm almost sure there is a internal "ring" on the gray rigid plastic coupling that grips that mates to the the lip of the clear swivel coupling. )

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Re: heated hose falling off

Post by georgepds » Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:03 am

Got it... The hard plastic fitting on the mask is the part with the latch

Thank you one and all for helping

--G