New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

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New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by roster » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:14 pm

Small, portable, easy-to-use device will treat obstructive sleep apnea with electrical acupoint therapy.

Many patients cannot well tolerate the CPAP device. The CPAP devices produce discomfort such as nasal or mouth dryness, psychological discomfort and facial irritation, and increase the number of tossing and turning events during sleep and masks leaking. This new device eliminates all of these problems.

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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:23 pm

Sounds interesting but I could not get any of the figures to appear ... will try from home PC later this evening.
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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by Slinky » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:02 pm

Sounds too good to be true! What the hay? It just might work! Better something on my wrist or arm all night than on my face!! I'm game. Where do I sign up for a clinical trial???

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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by SleepGuy » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:36 pm

Here's the rub:

The oxymeter detects apnea and the device sends an electrical signal to the "accupoint LU7" located "1.5 inches about the wrist, about 0.2-0.3 inches deep, on the inside of the arm. The point is in the depression superior to the styloid process of the radius. LU7 401 is well-known as the principal point on the Lung channel to expel pathogens from the body. It is indicated for the classic signs of an exterior pattern such as chills and fever, headache, aches, and pains in the neck, shoulders and back, etc., as well as acute oedema of the limbs due to impairment by exterior wind of the Lung's function of regulating the water passages and descending fluids to the bladder.

In the present invention, it is the Lung acupoint, specifically LU7, which is applied the electrical stimulation from the electrode, during the occurrence of apnea. While not to be bounded by the theory, it is believed that the LU7 point connects to airway muscle and stimulation of it can immediately improve the condition of airway during sleep apnea."

So, it shocks your wrist, which immediately stimulates your "airway muscle" (whatever that is) which immediately improves "the condition of airway during sleep apnea."
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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by dmstangu » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:48 pm

I'm not sure I would be able to sleep much being hit in the arm 117 times per hour (my AHI at PSG) with 80 volts shocks.
This seems like a "reactive" mechanism, not a preventative one. Therefore, I must have the apnea for a while for my SpO to go down, to trigger the oximeter, to trigger the taser...

Thanks, but I think I'll stick to my APAP for a while... ... at least until Slinky comes back from the clinical trial, with a hip hairdo...
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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by roster » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:12 pm

I hope they did not pick a stun gun setting.

If Slinky finds it is not a suitable replacement for cpap for primary treatment of sleep apnea, maybe I could use it in an auxiliary way on the sofa watching tv, in a darkened theater or dare I say, while driving?

Look at my avatar. Maybe Karen will supply a Pad-A-Shock to insulate me from my sleeping daughter.
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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by dmstangu » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:15 pm

That sounds like a good idea. Just make sure you don't stick the electrode to your gas foot, by mistake...
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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by boston » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:23 pm

dmstangu wrote:I'm not sure I would be able to sleep much being hit in the arm 117 times per hour (my AHI at PSG) with 80 volts shocks.
This seems like a "reactive" mechanism, not a preventative one. Therefore, I must have the apnea for a while for my SpO to go down, to trigger the oximeter, to trigger the taser...

Thanks, but I think I'll stick to my APAP for a while... ... at least until Slinky comes back from the clinical trial, with a hip hairdo...
yeah, my AHI was 110, that thing would either cook me or electrocute me.

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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by Slinky » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:38 pm

dmstangu wrote:That sounds like a good idea. Just make sure you don't stick the electrode to your gas foot, by mistake...
Yeah, you've gotta point there. I still don't have my car back from the dealership from that fresh deer carcass I hit on I-94 in the middle of nowhere just before midnight last Friday night. Ahhh. Halloween ... *sigh*
dustangu wrote: ... Thanks, but I think I'll stick to my APAP for a while... ... at least until Slinky comes back from the clinical trial, with a hip hairdo...
What? You don't think I'll look good in a "spike" hairdo???

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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by dsm » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:57 pm

Rooster,

Another great find - interesting concept.
But, I'll wait for when they find where to put the electrode in the brain.



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Joking aside - I'd probably be game to try it
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Re: New Device to Render CPAP Obsolete

Post by roster » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:00 pm

SleepGuy wrote: .......In the present invention, it is the Lung acupoint, specifically LU7, which is applied the electrical stimulation from the electrode, during the occurrence of apnea. While not to be bounded by the theory, it is believed that the LU7 point connects to airway muscle and stimulation of it can immediately improve the condition of airway during sleep apnea."

So, it shocks your wrist, which immediately stimulates your "airway muscle" (whatever that is) which immediately improves "the condition of airway during sleep apnea."
Thanks SleepGuy.

Is there an accupoint for everything? I am thinking of a modified patent which would allow me to go after the Viagra market!
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