OT: Save Tina Fey! Vote Obama 08!

Hey, so this just occurred to me over the weekend. Tina Fey has been saying she really doesn't want to play Palin for the next four years. I'm getting worried. What if McCain wins, and Tina kills herself out of despair?

I think we need to start a grassroots movement to save Tina Fey. I'm thinking of maybe printing up some Cafe Press paraphernalia - t-shirts, bumper stickers, etc.

Any good slogan suggestions?

SAVE TINA FEY'S SANITY! Vote Obama '08!

Obama 2008
Or Tina Fey is stuck doing Palin for the next four years.

Let's Fire Tina Fey!
Hire Obama in '08!

Cheers,
Babs

The results of her despair would be more preferable to the alternative!

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Q: Who would you say was the winner of the vice presidential debate?
A: Tina Fey

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I think Tina needs a secure job for the next four years, and since she's so good at what she's currently doing, we need to band together and make sure she has a reason to keep doing it!



Pam

it is more like vote for the lesser of the two evils, as both of the candidates are dumb as a rock and not fit to be President. Neither party has done any thing to address the issues, those debates are a waste of commercial time.

What are they going to do about this Economy? Neither one has a plan.
What are they going to do about outsourcing of our jobs? Neither one has a plan.
What are they going to do about the high cost and lack of healthcare? Neither one has a plan.
What are they going to do about Energy and getting us away from foreign oil? Neither one has a plan.
What are they going to do about the dysfunctional "Energy Department" created back in Carter years? Neither has a plan.
What are they going to do about the dysfunctional "SEC"? We know McCain is going to fire that worthless dumbass Cox.

If a company in the US is going to outsource American jobs to India and elsewhere they should be TAXED big time to discourage it. There is NO way we can keep our jobs competing with the wages of those 3rd world countries, oh lets give those companies like Microsoft and Oracle who lay off thousands a tax break.

I'm sorry but neither party is qualified to be President in my opinion. I'm writing in T. Boone Pickens at least he has half a brain and a plan and most of all some plain ole common sense. McCain has been in Congress for what? 24 years or more? he hasn't done a damn thing even when the Republicans were in control of the house. For the past 8 years the Democrats have been in charge, they haven't done a single damn thing either.

Now they have given a blank check to wall street, first we were told it was $700 billion, now a week later it is $830 billion to fix Greenspans mess. Him and Congress are the ones that put us where we are. What did they do? back in 2000-2001 when the dot.com bubble burst Greenspan lowered interest rates to ridiculously low rates and left them there way too long. During that time mortgage rates got very cheap and they didn't put any additional restrictions on that cheap money, you didn't even have to have a down payment. Many people (over 14 million) refinanced, or took out a ARM expecting to retire or move within 5 years, hey real estate you couldn't loose, many took out loans against equity to finance school, remodel or other reasons. So what did the Fed under Greenspan and Uncle Ben do? they raised that interest rate some 17 times!! what did that do? it started the clock ticking on every one of those ARM's, on every equity loan, not uncommon to see your house payment rise by $1300 per month. Lost your job due to outsourcing? Bummer. I seen the other day Ebay's new CEO boasting about laying off 1,600 workers while at the same time purchasing some competitor Pay Me Later. Well I bet that asshole will be gone in a year or so with a 100 million dollar golden parachute, those 1600 employees will be wondering how they will pay their house payment, their car loan, their credit card bills or send their kids to college. Want to know why our economy is in the crapper? that is why.

We have no FTC, back in mid 80's they forced AT&T to break up its monopoly. What ever happened with that? How many choices do you have now for phone service? Did your phone rates go down? Now look what they are doing to the banks, pretty soon there will only be 2 or 3 you have to choose from. Know how Wells Fargo and BofA became the largest banks? By nickel and dime every customer for every little transaction, not pay them any interest. Watch what happens next, they will give the car makers billions because they didn't build the right cars.

Not joining the political fray. Just some social commentary that while race, gender, age and such will be swaying factors for some in the election, it's not a one way street. I have a 94 year old friend who doesn't see McCain as old at all. (Actually, the older I've become, the less old he looks to me.) This friend just thinks Obama doesn't have enough life experiences to be her President. McCain may not be as striking in appearance as Obama, but his physical appearance is like a badge of honor, ever reminding the world of his experiences. I don't see that as a negative.

Should anyone who happens to be born with what society may consider to be "good" looks and who through hard work and opportunity got an education be dishonored as if that's a flaw or something that needs apology? My late sister-in-law talked to me in the weeks she was dying about her life of 37 years. She had been greatly saddened at being misjudged and misunderstood in life. She spoke of how when you're born with what is considered good looks and have a career as a research scientist, sometimes people distance themselves from you, as if you're not "ordinary". She felt her sensitivity to this may have been mistaken as aloofness or snobbery. I had to admit I had felt a bit intimidated by her athleticism, looks, and smarts, and almost assumed she only associated with other "beautiful people". She talked lovingly of her best friend who was her kindred spirit, who looked straight into her heart and loved her for everything she was on the inside, and was one with whom she could celebrate her successes with no need to temper them. When she began showing me pictures, I was surprised to find her dear friend was physically her polar opposite. My spirit nudges her to my memory from time to time, and I make it a point to engage those I find myself prejudging.

I'll never live long enough to live down all my preconceived notions, and certainly hold no illusion that we as a people will ever get there. But this particular election time is to me a sobering reminder of how far we have to go in so many respects.

Babette, I'm on board!

You need to get out of your dog house more often SD. A few corrections to your barks …

Snoredog wrote:it is more like vote for the lesser of the two evils, as both of the candidates are dumb as a rock and not fit to be President.

I don’t think those two are dumb as rocks. Now Bush and Palin, they are dumb as rocks (can you say “nookyouler”?) … well OK, Palin is actually a bit dumber than a rock

I do agree that voting for McCain and Obama is still like voting for the lesser of two evils but not because they are dumb as rocks but rather because they are both liars and say what ever needs to be said in order to keep the tribal political warfare distracting voters from the real issues.

Snoredog wrote:What are they going to do about this Economy? Neither one has a plan.

McCain … “the economy is fundamentally strong” … “drill baby drill!”
Obama … “less money for Wall Street and more money to Main Street”
Liars! Both of them!

Snoredog wrote:What are they going to do about outsourcing of our jobs? Neither one has a plan.

McCain … “drill baby drill!”
Obama … “no tax breaks for corporations that outsource”
I think Obama’s plan fits your expectations but is he telling the truth?

Snoredog wrote:What are they going to do about the high cost and lack of healthcare? Neither one has a plan.

McCain … “tax healthcare plans for those who do have them and give useless healthcare coupons to all those who cannot afford healthcare insurance”
Obama … “force business to provide employees healthcare insurance and tax business that refuse in order to pay for all those who cannot afford healthcare insurance”
I think Obama’s plan is looking like lesser of evils if you can believe him?

Snoredog wrote:What are they going to do about Energy and getting us away from foreign oil? Neither one has a plan.

McCain … “drill baby drill!”
Obama … “very similar to T Boone Pickens plan”
I think Obama’s plan fits your expectations but he has no way to pay for it … especially now with the trillion dollar Iraq war and the trillion dollar Wall Street/financial CEO junkets?

Snoredog wrote:What are they going to do about the dysfunctional "Energy Department" created back in Carter years? Neither has a plan.

See answer above. Regarding Carter years, I think Carter was the first to realize that US oil consumption was becoming a national security risk and it was his administration that brought us the 55 MPH speed limit and the first energy conservation initiatives … which Regan promptly did away with.

Snoredog wrote:What are they going to do about the dysfunctional "SEC"? We know McCain is going to fire that worthless dumbass Cox.

McCain … “drill baby drill!” … Yes, he may fire the dumbass and replace him with Phil Gramm
Obama … Yep, no plan here.
Even here, I think Obama’s no-plan is lesser of two evils … but he was for the bailout, shame shame shame!

Snoredog wrote:If a company in the US is going to outsource American jobs to India and elsewhere they should be TAXED big time to discourage it. There is NO way we can keep our jobs competing with the wages of those 3rd world countries ...

Agreed.

Snoredog wrote:I'm sorry but neither party is qualified to be President in my opinion. I'm writing in T. Boone Pickens at least he has half a brain and a plan and most of all some plain ole common sense. McCain has been in Congress for what? 24 years or more? he hasn't done a damn thing even when the Republicans were in control of the house. For the past 8 years the Democrats have been in charge, they haven't done a single damn thing either.

Yes I was thinking of writing in a Ron Paul/TB Pickens ticket myself. Uhhh … the Dems have only been in charge since 2006 and even then, only in charge of the Congress … you need some fresh batteries in your calculator

Snoredog wrote:Now they have given a blank check to wall street, first we were told it was $700 billion, now a week later it is $830 billion to fix Greenspans mess. Him and Congress are the ones that put us where we are. What did they do? back in 2000-2001 when the dot.com bubble burst Greenspan lowered interest rates to ridiculously low rates and left them there way too long. During that time mortgage rates got very cheap and they didn't put any additional restrictions on that cheap money, you didn't even have to have a down payment. Many people (over 14 million) refinanced, or took out a ARM expecting to retire or move within 5 years, hey real estate you couldn't loose, many took out loans against equity to finance school, remodel or other reasons. So what did the Fed under Greenspan and Uncle Ben do? they raised that interest rate some 17 times!! what did that do? it started the clock ticking on every one of those ARM's, on every equity loan, not uncommon to see your house payment rise by $1300 per month. Lost your job due to outsourcing? Bummer. I seen the other day Ebay's new CEO boasting about laying off 1,600 workers while at the same time purchasing some competitor Pay Me Later. Well I bet that asshole will be gone in a year or so with a 100 million dollar golden parachute, those 1600 employees will be wondering how they will pay their house payment, their car loan, their credit card bills or send their kids to college. Want to know why our economy is in the crapper? that is why.

Yep! Less than a week after the $61 billion AIG bailout, the CEOs went on a half-million dollar spa resort trip and just yesterday under the cover of COB darkness, Lord Henry gave them another $31 billion bonus

Snoredog wrote:We have no FTC, back in mid 80's they forced AT&T to break up its monopoly. What ever happened with that? How many choices do you have now for phone service? Did your phone rates go down? Now look what they are doing to the banks, pretty soon there will only be 2 or 3 you have to choose from. Know how Wells Fargo and BofA became the largest banks? By nickel and dime every customer for every little transaction, not pay them any interest. Watch what happens next, they will give the car makers billions because they didn't build the right cars.

I've been saying that our government has been hijacked by corporate monsters with no conscience for some time now and I get accused of being anti-free market and un-American. Americans traded their government for Exxons, WalMarts, and McDonalds and now they are paying the price. They traded their Bill of Rights for a dumbass "war on terror" and that payment is due in the very near future.

Anything that causes companies to pay out more money will still cost us money in the long run. You know a company is not just going to take higher taxes on them, forced healthcare, etcetera, on the chin and let it eat into their profits. They'll raise the cost of their products, reduce their workforce, decrease wages, increase the employee's portion of heatlhcare cost---anything to recoup the additional money they have to put out.

We have a great country with a lot of problems, but having the government involved more is not that answer, as they seem to mess up everything they touch.

Snoredog wrote:
I'm sorry but neither party is qualified to be President in my opinion. I'm writing in T. Boone Pickens at least he has half a brain and a plan and most of all some plain ole common sense.

T. Boone Pickens already owns the gas wells for the gas he is wanting you to use. His idea is good but biased. Even the gas
line that Palin brags on in Alaska won't be in use for about ten years. Any new oil wells drilled will take years before they are
on line. Depending on where they are drilled and transport costs the oil may not go to the US anyway. All but one oil company
is foreign owned. Even oil in Alaska may be sold to Canada if it costs too much to transport to the lower 48 states.
We got way behind on developing alternare fuels and energy because oil was so easy to use and the oil companies fought it.
Now we are not against the wall, but have it in sight. We will run out of oil in the future. The amount available is finite.

WearyOne wrote:Anything that causes companies to pay out more money will still cost us money in the long run. You know a company is not just going to take higher taxes on them, forced healthcare, etcetera, on the chin and let it eat into their profits. They'll raise the cost of their products, reduce their workforce, decrease wages, increase the employee's portion of heatlhcare cost---anything to recoup the additional money they have to put out.

True but ... all things should have a true cost built in so that people can decide whether or not to accept the product or service. As it is now, the costs are hidden and passed on to unsuspecting victims like retiring seniors, future generations, or the tax payers (can you say Enron or bailouts?).

WearyOne wrote:We have a great country with a lot of problems, but having the government involved more is not that answer, as they seem to mess up everything they touch.

It dosen't matter whether government is invloved more or less ... if it is controlled by the corporations, everything will be messed up because they are concerned only with corporate profit (they are legal entities like you and me but have no conscience and they can live a lot longer) -- unlike most people who generally have other other concerns besides just profit like health, education, environment, welfare of our offsrping, etc.

I'm on board, too, Babette!

DreamStalker wrote:I've been saying that our government has been hijacked by corporate monsters with no conscience for some time now and I get accused of being anti-free market and un-American. Americans traded their government for Exxons, WalMarts, and McDonalds and now they are paying the price. They traded their Bill of Rights for a dumbass "war on terror" and that payment is due in the very near future.

Absolutely. Let's not forget play money. The only way to stop financial decline is to redefine money. It needs to represent goods we produce, not figures on paper that show sky rocketing interest as a result of the banking system! Our system creates slaves of us all with the banking system as our master. OK, this is a bit simplistic, but I'm tired this morning from a particularly cold night/rain out

I vote to keep Tina fey employed!

Not sure that this is the place for politics!