Re: Previous "will not respond to apneas above 10cm" threads

[Velbor]

I don't like to mislead patients into thinking they are going to see or get that info from their S8 AutoSet as your reports are generated in another country using a clinical device they cannot legally purchase in the USA according to the manufacturer.
Resmed themselves say that Reslink module is a clinical only device, not to be sold to patients, neither is the software you printed it from if you want to get technical about it.

What ResMed actually says about the ResLink, and what the FDA says about it, can be found at
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/pdf2/K024191.pdf
(These documents appear to stem from the initial introduction of the ResLink module in 2003. I can find no evidence of subsequent change in official status.)

ResLink (and ResMed software) can be legally purchased in the United States under the same conditions as an xPAP machine: with a prescription.

It does seem to be ResMed's business policy to discourage sale of data management tools to individuals in the US; that makes them neither illegal nor impossible to obtain.

Velbor

[Snoredog]

I don't like to mislead patients into thinking they are going to see or get that info from their S8 AutoSet as your reports are generated in another country using a clinical device they cannot legally purchase in the USA according to the manufacturer.
Resmed themselves say that Reslink module is a clinical only device, not to be sold to patients, neither is the software you printed it from if you want to get technical about it.

What ResMed actually says about the ResLink, and what the FDA says about it, can be found at
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/pdf2/K024191.pdf
(These documents appear to stem from the initial introduction of the ResLink module in 2003. I can find no evidence of subsequent change in official status.)

ResLink (and ResMed software) can be legally purchased in the United States under the same conditions as an xPAP machine: with a prescription.

It does seem to be ResMed's business policy to discourage sale of data management tools to individuals in the US; that makes them neither illegal nor impossible to obtain.

Velbor

My search reveals they are not available on-line. I'm sure a Brick and Mortar DME will gladly order one up for a customer who wants to spend more that $1200 for one, that is what they sold for before Resmed jacked up the price by 40 to 60%.

But we all know the agony the DME puts the patient through just obtaining a data-capable machine much less ordering a Reslink module.

But if you want to compare apples to apples, a Remstar, a 420e, a Sandman Auto all give you snore and FL data without having to spend $1200 for additional hardware. But it doesn't change the fact, that the machine doesn't respond to apnea at or above 10 cm pressure, and the events it DOES respond to it doesn't tell you anything about it, not without that module.

Put up a Rescan report without the module? that is what people in the US are most likely to have if at all.

The ResLink™ therapy management system provides a whole new way to stay connected with your patients and clinical networks at all stages of the sleep-disordered breathing (SDB) therapy pathway.

http://www.resmed.com/en-us/products/cl ... u=products

[dsm]

Snoredog,

The data in my charts is full of that type of event - snore & flattening detail . My point is you stated that Resmed doesn't record that data & I showed that it did. I think we need to be a bit more careful about public comments that don't match the details. Arguing that I did the recording in another country is a very peculiar comment & has nothing to do with the point. The fact is the machine does monitor highly detailed snore & flattening & MV info in minute detail & recods it. It monitors that data to deal with clusters of events. AUTOs sample apnea pre-cursor data so as to prepare and pre-empt apneas. Autos don't try to clear an individual apnea their job is to *prevent* apneas.

The S7 also does & I could attach my S7 reslink to an S7 Spirit to show that as well (but will be in yet another country for the next week and a half so that will have to wait).

I am certain a Resmed with A10 would respond to Mike's cluster events.

This is all I have to say on this issue - will be too busy elsewhere for the next 10 days & believe all that needs to be explain has been & in pretty good detail.

Cheers

DSM

[Velbor]

My search reveals they are not available on-line. I'm sure a Brick and Mortar DME will gladly order one up for a customer who wants to spend more that $1200 for one, that is what they sold for before Resmed jacked up the price by 40 to 60%.

A more accurate statement would be that your search reveals that ResLink modules are not ADVERTISED online, in accord with ResMed business policy. That is far different from concluding that they are not AVAILABLE online.

The cost of a ResLink module typically runs somewhere about $250. The additional $1000 you cite is the cost of the OPTIONAL pulse-oximeter unit which plugs into the ResLink and can be used in conjunction with it.

Velbor

[Snoredog]

My search reveals they are not available on-line. I'm sure a Brick and Mortar DME will gladly order one up for a customer who wants to spend more that $1200 for one, that is what they sold for before Resmed jacked up the price by 40 to 60%.

A more accurate statement would be that your search reveals that ResLink modules are not ADVERTISED online, in accord with ResMed business policy. That is far different from concluding that they are not AVAILABLE online.

The cost of a ResLink module typically runs somewhere about $250. The additional $1000 you cite is the cost of the OPTIONAL pulse-oximeter unit which plugs into the ResLink and can be used in conjunction with it.

Velbor

you would have to be a dumbass to buy one of those even at $250.