An unexpected serious encounter with a cpap machine failure

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Snoredog
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Post by Snoredog » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:44 am

Try this:

1. Put the mask on, lay down, turn on the machine.
2. Look at your watch note the second hand time and take off the mask, let the machine continue to run,
3. Watch a good couple minutes and see how long it takes for it to shut completely off,

how sound do you sleep?
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Post by birdshell » Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:23 am

feeling_better wrote:

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I checked with my doctor. The opinion there is that the danger of taping is not really asphyxia, because you would wakeup, unless you were unconscious by alchohol or drugs. The real danger of taping is that in case one vomits, the vomitus could be aspirated into the lungs.

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This is a subject about which I have written before. The doctor (and other medical professionals) cite this aspiration theory based on the fact that one who is unconscious, in a coma, drugged or drunk, or similarly incapacitated, has vomited and aspirated the vomitus.

I have asked to see PROOF that an aware or sleeping person would suffer from such aspiration of vomitus. None has surfaced yet. A study of the records of the hospitals should show that there is a danger for a special population...and not for those of us who are aware enough to run for the bathroom. Image

I do have a trump card, though...I cannot physically vomit after having surgery on my stomach. Am I considered a risk for mouth taping?

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Post by magluns morons » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:48 am

Anonymous wrote:NOTE: you are INCORRECTLY taping your mouth.

Hopefully the new owner Philips will see the same and can the whole stinking design team of that machine. Knowing Respironics they probably outsourced the design to save $10 bucks.

5. Integrated Humidifier is a design disaster: Now don't get me wound up about the integrated humidifier as that had to be designed by the chief moron of the design team who once worked at Nasa and designed the O-rings on the solid rocket boosters for the Space Shuttle.

First they made the tank internal so you couldn't see what was going on, then made it so it was a split tank design, yes, split below water line!! To make the seal, they put in place a dinky o-ring to maintain seal between the top and bottom half.

Take it apart a few times for cleaning and it is eventually going to leak. That design works fine with water just sitting in it sitting on the counter but place it in its stall in the machine and turn it On with CPAP pressure and it blows water right past the O-Ring where it drips down inside, right next to all the electrical for the heating element.


This leak now drips inside the humidifier chassis undetected. This water drips all night runs down inside next to the heating element where it settles directly under the machine inside the humidifier platform. There are some injection vent holes about dead center where the machine rests on the platform, that water runs through the electrical corroding every electrical connection it comes in contact with and if you pick up the machine the water runs out that hole directly under the machine.


They have since redesigned the tank several times and I haven't seen yet where they got it right. So if you wake up during the night and it seems you are in a flood, check the machine that is most likely where it will be.

Like I said that machine was designed by a bunch of idiots there is no other conclusion one can come to.
The furniture damage scenario?


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Post by ww » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:09 am

Have you carefully checked the wall outlet the machine is plugged into? If I had that problem, I would immediately replace the outlet and then inspect the plug on the end of the power cord. Wires break at the power plug and you have to wiggle them to get them to make contact again, with the only solution to cut off the plug and put a new one on the cord if that is the problem.

In my college days, I repaired appliances and the plug was the problem in many appliances that didn't function properly.


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Post by Wulfman » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:20 am

ww wrote:Have you carefully checked the wall outlet the machine is plugged into? If I had that problem, I would immediately replace the outlet and then inspect the plug on the end of the power cord. Wires break at the power plug and you have to wiggle them to get them to make contact again, with the only solution to cut off the plug and put a new one on the cord if that is the problem.

In my college days, I repaired appliances and the plug was the problem in many appliances that didn't function properly.
I've also encountered situations (although infrequently) where the (probable) temperature changes have loosened the screws on the sides of the wall outlet where the wires are attached and then the flow of electricity can become interrupted.


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