Nasal Irrigation

Needsdecaf · Post by **Needsdecaf** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:00 am

sleepngo wrote:I also use the NielMed rinse packets with the 8oz squeeze bottle. I find it much easier to use than the pot, just turn my head side to side and gently squeeze into the nostrils, works great.

Dan

Yes, I like the squeeze bottle a lot. Just lean over the sink and squeeze, very nice.

For some reason the room temp water doesn't bother me too much.

gasp · Post by **gasp** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:09 pm

Magnum wrote:After my nasal surgey the ENT that removed my packing in my nose (my ENT was sick) suggested I use NeiMed Sinus Rinse. Seems to work good, but it does take some getting used to. Just make sure you don't use cold water or you will end up with instant sinue infection, or at least I did. I normally warm mine in the microwave for about 20 seconds and that is the right temp.

http://www.neilmed.com/usa/sinusrinse.php

If you have a plastic Net Pot, you may want to rethink using it in the microwave. I haven't heard back from the manufacturer, but I'd bet it has BPA in it and BPA leeches more when heated. I use warm tap water - but granted I have really nice pure (as of the last test) well water.

Dale92 · Post by **Dale92** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:43 pm

I envy you all being able to use the netti pot. I work in a woodworking shop and deal with dust all day long. I tried to use the netti pot after my sleep doc recommended it but I quit after one try. I followed the directions exactly and had no problems flushing out my right side but when I tried to rinse my left side out big problems. I started pouring the water into my left nostril and nothing came out. I adjusted my head position slightly and kept pouring but still nothing came out. I finally gave up and put the pot down. Now I had a head full of water and no way to get it out. I tried blowing my nose, hanging my head upside down still nothing. I felt like a water balloon the rest of the day.

Now when I rinse I just use the small spray bottles and flush out the nose only. Oh if I could only get a good rinse.

Dale

Magnum · Post by **Magnum** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:14 pm

gasp wrote:
If you have a plastic Net Pot, you may want to rethink using it in the microwave. I haven't heard back from the manufacturer, but I'd bet it has BPA in it and BPA leeches more when heated. I use warm tap water - but granted I have really nice pure (as of the last test) well water.

Most of the time I will use a measuring cup to warm it in, I have heard of those concerns as well, but I don't think there is a problem with the NeilMed bottle.

Magnum · Post by **Magnum** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:17 pm

Dale92 wrote:I envy you all being able to use the netti pot. I work in a woodworking shop and deal with dust all day long. I tried to use the netti pot after my sleep doc recommended it but I quit after one try. I followed the directions exactly and had no problems flushing out my right side but when I tried to rinse my left side out big problems. I started pouring the water into my left nostril and nothing came out. I adjusted my head position slightly and kept pouring but still nothing came out. I finally gave up and put the pot down. Now I had a head full of water and no way to get it out. I tried blowing my nose, hanging my head upside down still nothing. I felt like a water balloon the rest of the day.

Now when I rinse I just use the small spray bottles and flush out the nose only. Oh if I could only get a good rinse.

Dale

Dale, I don't use the cup, but rather the pressure bottle. Works better for me. I have a neck injury and can not bend my neck sometimes to use the cup, so the sqeeze bottle works better for me. You should look at it.

I stopped wood working years ago when the doc told me i was allergic to the mold that was in the pours of the wood I was turning. However I may go ahead and invest in the expensive vaccum systems to help reduce it and get back into it, I loved making small projects.

birdshell · Post by **birdshell** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:47 pm

Dale,

My doctor told me to use the no-needle syringe. I prefer the ones that are used as a children's dosing syringe. They are used to give liquid medicine to young children. Target has given me a free one at their pharmacy when I asked where to find them.

I believe it would give you a fairly good flushing of the nostrils. It does so for me.

Best,

Karen

Magnum · Post by **Magnum** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:24 pm

Needsdecaf wrote: For some reason the room temp water doesn't bother me too much.

I may have been more sensative to the water temp since it was right after my surgery.

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:11 am

I warm the water in a glass and pour it into the squeeze bottle.

O.

gasp · Post by **gasp** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:18 am

Magnum wrote:
gasp wrote:
If you have a plastic Net Pot, you may want to rethink using it in the microwave. I haven't heard back from the manufacturer, but I'd bet it has BPA in it and BPA leeches more when heated. I use warm tap water - but granted I have really nice pure (as of the last test) well water.
Most of the time I will use a measuring cup to warm it in, I have heard of those concerns as well, but I don't think there is a problem with the NeilMed bottle.

That's good. I emailed Neil Med Pharmaceuticals and asked if they use PBA or phylates in their products. We'll see if they answer.

birdshell · Post by **birdshell** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:26 am

gasp wrote:
That's good. I emailed Neil Med Pharmaceuticals and asked if they use PBA or phylates in their products. We'll see if they answer.

I think that you may have meant "phthalates", instead of "phylates". (Who named this substance anyway? Louis Phthalate?

)

I only know this from my research for my silicone "sensitivity"!

Karen

DreamStalker · Post by **DreamStalker** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:02 am

As I understand it ... any plastic MADE IN USA is not supposed to have phthalates (a toxic substance used to make plastics soft). However, loop holes exist in the federal laws for companies to sell phthalate plasitcs in USA as long as they were not made in USA (can you say China?).

In Europe, the loop holes do not exists and phthalate plastics the end up in European markets are promptly removed off their market sent to: you guessed it ... the USA

SuperGeeky · Post by **SuperGeeky** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:32 am

So, I purchased the NeilMed nasal irrigation bottle. Wow, can't believe what I was putting up with all these years.

I didn't know I could sniff threw both nostrils at the same time! Wow!

Though, I'm finding you have to be real gentle with the sinus passages.

This morning I irrigated, all of sudden no solution came out. And my ear started to feel pressure.

I think I got careless and wasn't using the proper position with my head. Anyway, I stopped immediately. Then, gently, tried to relieve the pressure from my ears.

Real concern since I'm going to be flying in a few days. And, when is the solution going to come out? Gradually or all at once?

Thanks,

SG

Magnum · Post by **Magnum** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:31 am

Sounds like you had your mouth closed and built up pressure in your sinuses, otherwise you shouldn't feel anything in your ears. Or there are other issues such as a blocked sinus. Squeeze the bottle gently as well. Normally the solution runs out right away, but I have had it drip as much as 30 minutes later so I always cary a tissue with me if I have to go out after I use it.

Here is a video on how it should be done:

http://www.neilmed.com/usa/sinusrinse_video.php

Also, here are the directions from thier Warning notice:

If you experience any pressure in the ears, stop the rinse and get further directions from your physician or contact our office during regular business hours. Do not rinse if your nasal passage is completely blocked, however, you may rinse with a partially blocked nasal passage.

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gasp · Post by **gasp** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:00 am

SuperGeeky wrote:So, I purchased the NeilMed nasal irrigation bottle. Wow, can't believe what I was putting up with all these years.

I didn't know I could sniff threw both nostrils at the same time! Wow!

Though, I'm finding you have to be real gentle with the sinus passages.

This morning I irrigated, all of sudden no solution came out. And my ear started to feel pressure.

I think I got careless and wasn't using the proper position with my head. Anyway, I stopped immediately. Then, gently, tried to relieve the pressure from my ears.

Real concern since I'm going to be flying in a few days. And, when is the solution going to come out? Gradually or all at once?

Thanks,

SG

I did this too and flew 4 hours with no problem there or back. Hopefully this will be the same for you.

I think I leaned too far forward and tilted my head too much. It can also happen if there is too much sinus congestion. Now I do it regularly to avoid too much congestion and only tip my head enough to the side to accommodate the pot.

gasp · Post by **gasp** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:15 am

birdshell wrote:
gasp wrote:
That's good. I emailed Neil Med Pharmaceuticals and asked if they use PBA or phylates in their products. We'll see if they answer.

I think that you may have meant "phthalates", instead of "phylates". (Who named this substance anyway? Louis Phthalate? )

I only know this from my research for my silicone "sensitivity"!

Karen

Now I'm confused Thanks for thinking this through with me : )

Note the use of the words phthalates and phylates on the University of Maryland Medical Center site below.

"Phthalates, chemicals used to soften plastics, are under particular scrutiny for their ability to disrupt hormones. Specific phylates of special concern include dibutyl phthalate (DBP), which is found in many products, including cosmetics and clay products sold to children (Fimo, Sculpey). Animals exposed to phylates have significantly impaired sperm count and abnormalities in their reproductive structures, such as the testes. In addition, there is some concern that exposure in pregnant women may affect the offspring,"

http://www.umm.edu/patiented/articles/w ... 0067_4.htm

I believe phylates is a specific component of the phthalates category. hummmm

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