I think I'm just going to have to buy several and keep trying them. I just don't understand why some of them work for awhile, then not. I think my home-made one out of women's tights just lost its integrity, so to speak. It just wimped out.
then I found these knee sox of my daughters........they were made out of strong/soft elastic stuff and were about 4" wide. I pinned them in a circle, and that worked for awhile, then wimped out. (they were red and white stripes and I felt like I was in a "Where's Waldo" picture!!)
The ones I've used still seem to let me easily open my mouth. Does that happen with the delux chin strap?
I'm trying to figure out how to position something right under my lower lip. Pressure there seems to be all I need.......but the trick is getting it to stay there during the night.
I wish there was some sort of little plastic mouth gadget that just held your top front teeth with your bottom front teeth.....just in the front. Something like just the front part of a full mouth guard....that would hold the teeth together..........but I guess air could still get out the sides of the teeth.
Taping worked great for me, but I just can't tolerate it anymore, because it makes my sinuses burn so much. I had "window surgery" on my sinuses, and more air can probably go up into them, than normal sinuses.
Darn. I hate it when you find something that really works.........then another problem pops up.
Question: On that delux chinstrap that's 3-4" wide...... I'm sensitive to things pushing into my trachea.......do you think it might do that?
LOL Babette.........I'll bet you don't really have 27 chins. Maybe 22......but not 27.
Best Chin Strap????
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C4E - uh.... You're sleep deprived and missing an important point:
ELASTIC WEARS OUT!!!!
Foam and elastic both break down. A pair of tights WILL NOT LAST FOREVER! Neither will that expensive foam mattress or spendy foam pillow.
These items degrade at a rate higher than natural fibers - i.e., cotton, linen, wool.
It's the nature of synthetic fibers. They are very susceptible to heat, water, light, etc., as well as the wear and tear of being stretched over and over.
You just need to figure out what your chinstrap's "life" is, in the same way you need to figure out what the "life" is of your silicone mask interface, and replace it accordingly.
Cheers,
Babs
ELASTIC WEARS OUT!!!!
Foam and elastic both break down. A pair of tights WILL NOT LAST FOREVER! Neither will that expensive foam mattress or spendy foam pillow.
These items degrade at a rate higher than natural fibers - i.e., cotton, linen, wool.
It's the nature of synthetic fibers. They are very susceptible to heat, water, light, etc., as well as the wear and tear of being stretched over and over.
You just need to figure out what your chinstrap's "life" is, in the same way you need to figure out what the "life" is of your silicone mask interface, and replace it accordingly.
Cheers,
Babs
BTW, have you tried the PAP-CAP yet?
http://www.pur-sleep.com/content/?id=44
and
http://www.pur-sleep.com/products/produ ... category=6
Cheers,
Babs
http://www.pur-sleep.com/content/?id=44
and
http://www.pur-sleep.com/products/produ ... category=6
Cheers,
Babs
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I have a pap-cap and it's pretty good. I also have and use a SnorEnder (http://www.snorender.com). It's much more comfortable and for me, it works a lot better than my pap-cap. CPAPed for almost 10 years.
I actually have the SnorEnder as well and it seems to work ok. I'm not sure about the theraputic claims about the ear magnets stopping snoring. That might be true but I haven't seen any support for that kind of claim.
It's not terribly stable front to back (at least on my head) and messes up my hair quite a bit. It's made with two layers of stretchy synthetic fabric and covers the ears, so it's rather hot and at least a little slippery. Cotton is a much better choice of material in my opinion (but of course I would say that!). I also like having padding on my forehead.
But at least people have some choices besides the Tiara and Respironics stuff.
It's not terribly stable front to back (at least on my head) and messes up my hair quite a bit. It's made with two layers of stretchy synthetic fabric and covers the ears, so it's rather hot and at least a little slippery. Cotton is a much better choice of material in my opinion (but of course I would say that!). I also like having padding on my forehead.
But at least people have some choices besides the Tiara and Respironics stuff.
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Country, this is precisely what the PAP-Cap is all about. All you need is a 2-inch wide cotton chinstrap that extends over the edge of the chin so as to move up the bottom lip about 1-2 cm. You mount it on a platform that works with the shape of the head instead of against it (like a belt) and presto. That's all you need.Country4ever wrote:I'm trying to figure out how to position something right under my lower lip. Pressure there seems to be all I need.......but the trick is getting it to stay there during the night.
But then if you can figure out how to actually mount your mask to that very stable, comfortable platform, you'll be in fat city. That's the other half of the story that's still under development.
Bret
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Thanks everyone,
Babs......I hadn't used either homemade chinstrap very long. I'd hate to think I have to make a new one every month......but maybe I do.
I hadn't given much thought to the pap-cap because my hair is long and I have it up in a barrett on the back of my head, and I think the cap wouldn't fit right. I just can't sleep with it down or in a pony tail. Also.......it just seems like too much stuff on my head......the cap and all. But I'll check it out again.
Babs......I hadn't used either homemade chinstrap very long. I'd hate to think I have to make a new one every month......but maybe I do.
I hadn't given much thought to the pap-cap because my hair is long and I have it up in a barrett on the back of my head, and I think the cap wouldn't fit right. I just can't sleep with it down or in a pony tail. Also.......it just seems like too much stuff on my head......the cap and all. But I'll check it out again.
Country, I think Bret needs to contemplate a mod to the PAP-Cap to incorporate a ponytail hole at the top for the long-hair community.
You could cut one yourself, if you were so inclined.
I was lucky enough to try an early version of the PAP CAP, and just tonight got to try the current version. I have shoulder length hair, which I prefer to wear DOWN right now (if it gets much longer, I may start braiding it). The new version PAP CAP was very nice. If you could stand braiding your hair, there is plenty of room to wear it down in a braid.
If you have to wear it UP in a ponytail, you'll probably have to do a mod or talk Bret into doing a new version. Or, and this just occurred to me, you COULD tuck it all up into the cap, like a shower cap. Hmmmm...
BUT... why are you wearing your hair up in the first place? To hold your headgear in place? If SO, then the PAP CAP will eliminate the need for that. You can attach your mask directly to the PAP CAP, either with velcro strips, or by sewing your current headgear onto the cap, or even just by wearing the cap under the headgear.
For now, I have to say that for less than $20, I recommend you try the Deluxe chinstrap from cpapauction.com. I just bid on a new one (from Tina's Homecare), which I plan to incorporate into the Nasal Aire II Test Drive. I haven't done that before, but the feedback I'm getting says it's a good idea.
Cheers,
Babs
You could cut one yourself, if you were so inclined.
I was lucky enough to try an early version of the PAP CAP, and just tonight got to try the current version. I have shoulder length hair, which I prefer to wear DOWN right now (if it gets much longer, I may start braiding it). The new version PAP CAP was very nice. If you could stand braiding your hair, there is plenty of room to wear it down in a braid.
If you have to wear it UP in a ponytail, you'll probably have to do a mod or talk Bret into doing a new version. Or, and this just occurred to me, you COULD tuck it all up into the cap, like a shower cap. Hmmmm...
BUT... why are you wearing your hair up in the first place? To hold your headgear in place? If SO, then the PAP CAP will eliminate the need for that. You can attach your mask directly to the PAP CAP, either with velcro strips, or by sewing your current headgear onto the cap, or even just by wearing the cap under the headgear.
For now, I have to say that for less than $20, I recommend you try the Deluxe chinstrap from cpapauction.com. I just bid on a new one (from Tina's Homecare), which I plan to incorporate into the Nasal Aire II Test Drive. I haven't done that before, but the feedback I'm getting says it's a good idea.
Cheers,
Babs
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