Even pushed right together, two twins (if made up with separate sheets) are likely to keep you in your own beds. Obviously if you make them up with king sized sheets, you won't get any benefit at all. But if each bed is made up with twin sheets, then you're right next to each other (and able to have an, er, "meeting of the minds" when the mood strikes), but still have a bit of a physical barrier keeping you each on your own side.
Liam, posting useless things while mildly drunk that even the most simple minded idiot could figure out.
Apnea and a partner that moves alot during sleep
Hi day for night,
A bedtime story and possible solution for all that nocturnal activity.
First, can you believe that post from meister? Just guess who sleeps better in that household - Mrs meister of course! And why? - Because she has a bed partner who unconditionally forgives any adverse activity!
Not Mr meister, no way, he thought he was sleeping in some kind of train station and got the hell out before he got run over. Seems his affluent political aspirations dictated he keep up with the Lincoln's and the Washington's by having his own little white room.
He should have been more tolerant and followed my example which could work for you.
Get a poodle, miniature or a fat toy, both seem to work but it must be a poodle. They don't shed, very possessive, smarter than most humans and best of all - they snore, with those long snouts and all, they can really turn up the volume. Personally I think they do it intentionally but it doesn't really matter because it allows their human servants to point fingers at the hairy little ruler and say - It wasn't me who woke you up! Must have been little princess!!!
For the first 14 years of our marriage we enjoyed the company of "Misty". None of this "sleeping at the foot of the bed" thing. Right up front between us with the pillow of her choice. We also had to learn when she might be too warm or cool thereby anticipating her need for blankets or not. May sound complicated but not really - Pavlov's other book "Human Response to Canine Stimuli" pretty much covers all the bases. To emphasize this point, when "Misty" got older and could not jump up on the bed any longer we simply took the legs off the bed so the box spring and mattress were right on the floor. She could handle this height and her sense of control was not diminished.
The best thing is that we were so perfectly trained that when the great dog house in the sky came calling and the fat toy replacement arrived there was no need to adjust the bed as it was already at the right height. (True)
So, day for night, you're probably wondering what this all means to you! Quite simple really, there seems to be a certain lack of control in the ol conjugal bed. You need some direction and rules without stepping on any paws (did you get that Janelle?). A poodle will do this for you! Mrs will soon end all that flailing about for fear of hurting the little one, or getting nipped, and all three of you can sleep soundly.
Go for it, and you can tell all your friends about your kinky menage a trois activities!
May the fur be with you.
Bob F
A bedtime story and possible solution for all that nocturnal activity.
First, can you believe that post from meister? Just guess who sleeps better in that household - Mrs meister of course! And why? - Because she has a bed partner who unconditionally forgives any adverse activity!
Not Mr meister, no way, he thought he was sleeping in some kind of train station and got the hell out before he got run over. Seems his affluent political aspirations dictated he keep up with the Lincoln's and the Washington's by having his own little white room.
He should have been more tolerant and followed my example which could work for you.
Get a poodle, miniature or a fat toy, both seem to work but it must be a poodle. They don't shed, very possessive, smarter than most humans and best of all - they snore, with those long snouts and all, they can really turn up the volume. Personally I think they do it intentionally but it doesn't really matter because it allows their human servants to point fingers at the hairy little ruler and say - It wasn't me who woke you up! Must have been little princess!!!
For the first 14 years of our marriage we enjoyed the company of "Misty". None of this "sleeping at the foot of the bed" thing. Right up front between us with the pillow of her choice. We also had to learn when she might be too warm or cool thereby anticipating her need for blankets or not. May sound complicated but not really - Pavlov's other book "Human Response to Canine Stimuli" pretty much covers all the bases. To emphasize this point, when "Misty" got older and could not jump up on the bed any longer we simply took the legs off the bed so the box spring and mattress were right on the floor. She could handle this height and her sense of control was not diminished.
The best thing is that we were so perfectly trained that when the great dog house in the sky came calling and the fat toy replacement arrived there was no need to adjust the bed as it was already at the right height. (True)
So, day for night, you're probably wondering what this all means to you! Quite simple really, there seems to be a certain lack of control in the ol conjugal bed. You need some direction and rules without stepping on any paws (did you get that Janelle?). A poodle will do this for you! Mrs will soon end all that flailing about for fear of hurting the little one, or getting nipped, and all three of you can sleep soundly.
Go for it, and you can tell all your friends about your kinky menage a trois activities!
May the fur be with you.
Bob F
unclebob
Bob you are full of dog poop
Mrs. Meister has been taking Ambien for 4 years so she can get
some sleep. The dog wedges itself between her legs such that she
can't pull the covers up when she is cold. When she goes to move
the dog, it growls loudly as it doesn't want to move from its warm spot.
When the dog moves up along side of her ... during the night it
stretches and those claws dig right into her back. Other times it presses
it legs against her back, and practically pushes her out of the bed. Mind you this is a Beagle, not a Rested Gal Rottweiler size dog. So Mrs. Meister sleeping in the guest room, in the one twin bed, with the dog, who also gets up a couple of times per night ... and oh yeah, when it hears a threatening
sound outside ... starts barking. Or when it is having doggy dreams and
it starts making doggy dream noises. All this compared to Mr. Meister,
who is still in the King Size bed in the master bedroom, with his
electric blanket, white noise machine, sleep mask, ear plugs, and PAP box;
dreaming of Rested Gal. Mr. Meister takes his Lunesta and next thing he knows Mrs. Meister is waking him up to go to work. He is completely oblivious to all the doggy shenanigans with Mrs. Meister. Luckily Mr. Meister had the proper sense to have the dog "fixed" so there will be no more dependents on his tax form. Every once in a while Mr. Meister pines for a puppy of his own, but it usually takes only one trip in the living room without his slippers (stepping in doggy poop and pee on the carper), to bring him quickly back to his sanity. Such is the life of Republicans, dogs, and PAP
in America.
some sleep. The dog wedges itself between her legs such that she
can't pull the covers up when she is cold. When she goes to move
the dog, it growls loudly as it doesn't want to move from its warm spot.
When the dog moves up along side of her ... during the night it
stretches and those claws dig right into her back. Other times it presses
it legs against her back, and practically pushes her out of the bed. Mind you this is a Beagle, not a Rested Gal Rottweiler size dog. So Mrs. Meister sleeping in the guest room, in the one twin bed, with the dog, who also gets up a couple of times per night ... and oh yeah, when it hears a threatening
sound outside ... starts barking. Or when it is having doggy dreams and
it starts making doggy dream noises. All this compared to Mr. Meister,
who is still in the King Size bed in the master bedroom, with his
electric blanket, white noise machine, sleep mask, ear plugs, and PAP box;
dreaming of Rested Gal. Mr. Meister takes his Lunesta and next thing he knows Mrs. Meister is waking him up to go to work. He is completely oblivious to all the doggy shenanigans with Mrs. Meister. Luckily Mr. Meister had the proper sense to have the dog "fixed" so there will be no more dependents on his tax form. Every once in a while Mr. Meister pines for a puppy of his own, but it usually takes only one trip in the living room without his slippers (stepping in doggy poop and pee on the carper), to bring him quickly back to his sanity. Such is the life of Republicans, dogs, and PAP
in America.
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But unclebob, poodles, even fat ones, do shed, they just mat instead of dropping it on the furniture. Now beagles SNORE and they don't require that much grooming like poodles.
Meister-man, tell that beagle Auntie Janelle says the gig is up and he will have to sleep in a crate if he doesn't stop being so dominant. Of course this is what happens when you let a dog sleep with you. They think they own you. I even had a male basset who would sleep with me when my husband was out of town (it made me feel more "protected", like a basset would protect anyone) and he would pee on my husband's pillow. Needless to say, he didn't sleep with me after that.
Now, how about a toy size dog with Tusks*, that REALLY doesn't shed. Imagine waking up with this one on your chest when you've forgotten to put your mask on, holding it in his teeth. Non-compliancy ones beware! or how about a Labrador that retrieves the mask when you throw it across the room and then sits on your chest to do simple chest compressions when you have a heart attack from not wearing it?
*Chinese Crested Dog. Because of hairless gene they often develop tusks instead of regular canines just like elephants, pigs, hippos and other hairless animals.
Meister-man, tell that beagle Auntie Janelle says the gig is up and he will have to sleep in a crate if he doesn't stop being so dominant. Of course this is what happens when you let a dog sleep with you. They think they own you. I even had a male basset who would sleep with me when my husband was out of town (it made me feel more "protected", like a basset would protect anyone) and he would pee on my husband's pillow. Needless to say, he didn't sleep with me after that.
Now, how about a toy size dog with Tusks*, that REALLY doesn't shed. Imagine waking up with this one on your chest when you've forgotten to put your mask on, holding it in his teeth. Non-compliancy ones beware! or how about a Labrador that retrieves the mask when you throw it across the room and then sits on your chest to do simple chest compressions when you have a heart attack from not wearing it?
*Chinese Crested Dog. Because of hairless gene they often develop tusks instead of regular canines just like elephants, pigs, hippos and other hairless animals.
Funny that you mention that
The first thing this Beagle Dog did when it got in our house was
go bedroom to bedroom, peeing on all the beds. My kids love the
dog, but feel it is Dad's job to clean up after it.
I took my young daughter and our dog for a walk in the park the other day.
She looked over and saw two dogs. The one dog was on top of the other
dog, in a most peculiar position. She asked me what was going on. I said
"You see that one dog has hurt paws, and the other dog is letting the
first dog put its paws on its back, so they don't hurt so much. So the
one dog is helping the other dog." She said to me, "Dad, why is it
everytime you help someone you end up getting screwed?".
go bedroom to bedroom, peeing on all the beds. My kids love the
dog, but feel it is Dad's job to clean up after it.
I took my young daughter and our dog for a walk in the park the other day.
She looked over and saw two dogs. The one dog was on top of the other
dog, in a most peculiar position. She asked me what was going on. I said
"You see that one dog has hurt paws, and the other dog is letting the
first dog put its paws on its back, so they don't hurt so much. So the
one dog is helping the other dog." She said to me, "Dad, why is it
everytime you help someone you end up getting screwed?".
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OK...I give, I give...(she says screaming with laughter) My tummy hurts!
P.S.
If I had a dog that peed on all the beds, said dog would now be peeing on clouds in heaven. Or I'd wring the pee out of the bed onto a washcloth, wrap the pee-soaked cloth around a muzzle, and let the danged dog wear it for a week and see how HE liked smelling dog pee! (she says meanly, baring teeth)
P.S.
If I had a dog that peed on all the beds, said dog would now be peeing on clouds in heaven. Or I'd wring the pee out of the bed onto a washcloth, wrap the pee-soaked cloth around a muzzle, and let the danged dog wear it for a week and see how HE liked smelling dog pee! (she says meanly, baring teeth)
Hi photogal,
Just a little concerned with that attitude you seem to have with canine pee. Who do you think washes off all the hydrants and tree trunks, do you want to get down on your hands and knees and do it? I'll bet NOT!! Not only are are the hydrants washed, they are also disenfected - check it out, with enough disinfectant nothing grows around them. Can't beat that!
Just need to make one thing clear, your ordinary canines will sometimes pee in unexpected places. This is to be expected for ordinary dogs who have not mastered the real art of human control. They simply lack confidence and feel the need to reinforce human awareness as to who really is in charge. While uninformed humans simply call this "marking territory" or "little accidents" the fact is they have not learned to anticipate their ordinary dog's every need. It's not really the human's fault. it's just that their ordinary dog does not comprehend the real art of human control.
If you would please refer back to my original post ( and especially you Janelle ) I was referring to Poodles, I thought I made that clear. THESE ARE NOT ORDINARY CANINES!!!! Poodles do not relieve themselves in unexpected places unless:
A. - They want to as it may please them ( kind of a royalty thing).
B. - Humans are confused ( a friendly reminder)
C. - Sence that additional humidity is needed due to all that blowing air.
D. - They don't give a shit ( see how considerate they are! )
Poodles know the pecking order, what should happen next, how the world turns, and especially who is in charge. Can you imagine any ordinary dog trying to elevate human awareness? A Beagle, yuck; a Basset Hound - only if Elvis is singing; a small hairless animal with tusks is not a dog, it's a miniature bald wart-hog that should remain on it's Galapagos island retreat.
Sorry for all the confusion, day or night, just get a Poodle and all your problems will be solved ( a miracle cure no less ).
A serious note regarding droppings on the carpet.
Our second Poodle "Amber" - fat toy, was thirteen years old when she had a stroke. Rushed from work to the vet who had her on oxygen. Started wagging her tail when she saw me but couldn't get up as was pretty much paralyzed. Took her home and for the next several days she was half alert, eating and drinking a little but couldn't move and did not pass waste. We figured the end was near as nothing was coming out after about a week. Then one day while laying on the carpet in the family room she dropped a bomb that was almost the same size she was. We were so happy and excited and you could see the the happiness and relief in Amber's eyes as well the non stop tail wagging. I'll never ever condemn a dog for do do on the carpet again. After that I carried her out to the hydrant in front of our house for relief and held her while doing her thing. This lasted for about four more months until she finally died.
Not feeling good right now, sorry.
Bob F
Just a little concerned with that attitude you seem to have with canine pee. Who do you think washes off all the hydrants and tree trunks, do you want to get down on your hands and knees and do it? I'll bet NOT!! Not only are are the hydrants washed, they are also disenfected - check it out, with enough disinfectant nothing grows around them. Can't beat that!
Just need to make one thing clear, your ordinary canines will sometimes pee in unexpected places. This is to be expected for ordinary dogs who have not mastered the real art of human control. They simply lack confidence and feel the need to reinforce human awareness as to who really is in charge. While uninformed humans simply call this "marking territory" or "little accidents" the fact is they have not learned to anticipate their ordinary dog's every need. It's not really the human's fault. it's just that their ordinary dog does not comprehend the real art of human control.
If you would please refer back to my original post ( and especially you Janelle ) I was referring to Poodles, I thought I made that clear. THESE ARE NOT ORDINARY CANINES!!!! Poodles do not relieve themselves in unexpected places unless:
A. - They want to as it may please them ( kind of a royalty thing).
B. - Humans are confused ( a friendly reminder)
C. - Sence that additional humidity is needed due to all that blowing air.
D. - They don't give a shit ( see how considerate they are! )
Poodles know the pecking order, what should happen next, how the world turns, and especially who is in charge. Can you imagine any ordinary dog trying to elevate human awareness? A Beagle, yuck; a Basset Hound - only if Elvis is singing; a small hairless animal with tusks is not a dog, it's a miniature bald wart-hog that should remain on it's Galapagos island retreat.
Sorry for all the confusion, day or night, just get a Poodle and all your problems will be solved ( a miracle cure no less ).
A serious note regarding droppings on the carpet.
Our second Poodle "Amber" - fat toy, was thirteen years old when she had a stroke. Rushed from work to the vet who had her on oxygen. Started wagging her tail when she saw me but couldn't get up as was pretty much paralyzed. Took her home and for the next several days she was half alert, eating and drinking a little but couldn't move and did not pass waste. We figured the end was near as nothing was coming out after about a week. Then one day while laying on the carpet in the family room she dropped a bomb that was almost the same size she was. We were so happy and excited and you could see the the happiness and relief in Amber's eyes as well the non stop tail wagging. I'll never ever condemn a dog for do do on the carpet again. After that I carried her out to the hydrant in front of our house for relief and held her while doing her thing. This lasted for about four more months until she finally died.
Not feeling good right now, sorry.
Bob F
unclebob
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Re: History Lesson
Janelle wrote:Well, folks just didn't sleep together in the early days, except for early in the marriage when children were wanted. The richer you were, the less you slept together.
You mean it's different now?
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So political comments aside, it sounds like most of you are just dealing with it. I love my wife, but its like sleeping next to a mexican jumping bean. She feels rested when she gets up, so she is fine. But I'm not doing so well and she wants me to sleep with her (we've been married less than 2 years).
Does the two bed thing cut down on side to side movement?
Does anyone use a latex bed or a tempurpedic?
Does the two bed thing cut down on side to side movement?
Does anyone use a latex bed or a tempurpedic?
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day for night, a couple of months ago I bit the bullet and bought the Tempur-Pedic Deluxe Adjustable - double bed size. It's fabulous! Expensive (the real thing) but well worth it, imho. If I'm going to spend one-third of the remainder of my life sleeping, I want to be as comfortable as possible.
I like the thought that I've been spending my money on really good equipment (autopap/software/masks) and now a really good bed, instead of shelling it out of my uninsured pocket for a PSG to tell me what I already knew.
I like the thought that I've been spending my money on really good equipment (autopap/software/masks) and now a really good bed, instead of shelling it out of my uninsured pocket for a PSG to tell me what I already knew.
I also have a tempurpedic, and it works WONDERS for not being disturbed by motion in the bed... Unfortunately, it does nothing for having a wife who's a nocturnal snuggler.
(My wife and my daughter are the same. I swear my daughter could consume all of the available space on a king sized bed from the time she was about 4).
I love my wife dearly, but I've never been a snuggler, and don't sleep well in contact with anyone else (gives me one more thing to focus on and be unable to fall asleep.)
But we do our best, that's about all we can do.
Liam, missing his tempur-pedic (and of course his wife) during this business trip to Florida.
(My wife and my daughter are the same. I swear my daughter could consume all of the available space on a king sized bed from the time she was about 4).
I love my wife dearly, but I've never been a snuggler, and don't sleep well in contact with anyone else (gives me one more thing to focus on and be unable to fall asleep.)
But we do our best, that's about all we can do.
Liam, missing his tempur-pedic (and of course his wife) during this business trip to Florida.
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Just get on the phone and call that bionic woman and get your sleep number assigned. Can you imagine, sleeping with a setting of 13 for your breathing and a 35 for your body and 16 for elevation. Sleep is becoming all about numbers. It may be an expensive bed, but you are not supposed to feel the other person move.
The sight of Hilary and Chelsea in the same room together would turn the staunchest of democrats into republicans.
The sight of Hilary and Chelsea in the same room together would turn the staunchest of democrats into republicans.