Weight Loss and CPAP - A Supportive Thread

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Post by Guest » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:09 pm

Thanks DreamStalker for the link.

Babette, you are right. Women don't have the physical makeup to bulk up like men. For weight loss, cardio and weights combined is the most efficient way to go. Of course, anyone thinking about starting, should always check with their doctor first. I've got quite a few conditions and had to get a doctor's note before joining the gym. In the beginning, I lost weight, but it turned out to be fat and muscle even though I was diligently doing weights. The trainer said it was because I wasn't eating enough protein was the reason I was working my butt off on weights and still losing muscle. That was a bummer, lol.

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Post by ZZZzzz » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:38 pm

Hi everyone***

I'm doing great!
My size 12 pants are loose.

I'm still on a lower carb diet and by that I mean I try to stay under 100 grams of sugar a day.
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(Stupid Mochas)

I still treadmill morning and night. I don't care if I can only afford 8 minutes or 12 minutes; I do what I can. Gets my blood pumping and makes me feel good especially when I have a favorite show to finish watching. I bribe myself on the treadmill with the *best* TV shows.
You know the ones: Forensic Files; Body of Evidence; New Detectives; 48 Hours Mystery.

I try not to eat after 6 P.M. and I think I'm successful about 80% of the time.

Plenty of water; multi vitamin; and EFA's every day.

While everyone else sits on the couch watching TV; for four months I have been enjoying doing some floor exercises. I may do sit ups, leg lifts, stretches, arm lifts (with two extra large cans of Bush's Baked Beans as weights) and at a leisurely pace.
I used the word "enjoying" because for over a year my muscles were so sore I couldn't do a lot of things. Now it's a pleasure to be able to move and stretch.


I feel your pain and know your struggle.
I swear it has to be easier to kick Crystal Meth than to kick chocolate chip cookies and lasagna.

Good luck, my Friends.

-Bev
Today I bent the truth to be kind, and I have no regrets; for I am far surer of what is kind, than I am of what is true.

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Post by LavenderMist » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:05 am

Bev congrats on your weight loss and progress. Keep up the good work. It definitely does make a difference when you feel well enough to exercise. My pain levels are less now that I'm on cpap and have been able to start exercise as well. It feels great.


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Post by LavenderMist » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:20 pm

Ok time to bump this up. Last week I did so great. I went to the gym every day. This week I am very dissapointed in myself. Monday it stormed all day and we were under flood and tornado watches, so I didn't go. I went on Tuesday to my yoga class and did some cardio (not as much as I planned). I didn't go on Wednesday because of pain. I don't know if it was the weather getting colder or pain from the yoga class. Last night I thought I was going to go out of my mind the pain was so bad from my behind to my toes on the right side. Today was better, but I missed yoga class this morning. I "made" myself go to the gym and get on the elliptical. My performance wasn't up to par, but I did burn 233 calories. I then did my weight training circuit. My diet still sucks. I ate a bowl of oatmeal yesterday. Today, I've had nothing.
Hope everyone else is doing ok.

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Post by Guest » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:10 pm

Hey now, lose the negative talk. Just spirals you down a path where YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN. And, as several people on this list have pointed out - if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got.

So, in that spirit, I joined a gym yesterday. But I'm too busy to go until Monday. Typical Barb. But I DO meet with a personal trainer for a full assessment on Monday. I'm getting swamped at work and have to have a ton of things done before I leave on vacation, hence not going until Monday.

I decided getting the house cleaned up enough to work out was probably not going to happen SOON. And the gym is close by, it is NOT a chain - it's a Mom & Pop - and it's NOT crowded. NO kids, either, which I love. And less than the YMCA - which is A) Crowded, B) overrun with kids, and C) very loud and noisy and annoying.

My mom's a Y rat and I went for awhile, but I just really didn't care for it. I like this gym much better. Small, tidy, quiet, nice people, much more user-friendly in my estimation.

And I know 3 ladies here at work already going. No, it's not a girls-only gym. It's not Curves. (BLECH!!!!) It's just a family owned all purpose gym. Rare these days. No pool. No hot tub. But they do have an infrared sauna, and very pretty cherrywood lockers in the ladies changing room. And Pilates classes, and spin classes, and yoga classes and personal trainers, and all that good stuff.

SO, GET BACK UP ON THAT HORSE AND KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE! There's enough people in this world who will badmouth you - don't do it to yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huggers,
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Post by WearyOne » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:13 pm

I forgot that some of you asked for this---Sorry! It does have sugar and white flour, but it is low in calories, fat, and sodium, for those of us watching these things. It doesn't have a crust, but is firm enough that, if you wanted to, you could pick your piece up in your hand and have at it! My 19-year-old son loves this recipe.

I use a deep-dish glass pie plate, and the blender instead of a food processor. I also use Smart Balance in place of the margarine. I have never tried it with the orange peel.

PUMPKIN PIE

1 can (16 ounces) pumpkin
1 can (12 ounces) evaporated skim milk
3 egg whites or 1/2 cup cholesterol-free egg product
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 cup all-purpose flour
1-1/2 teaspoons pumpkin pie spice
3/4 teaspoon baking powder
1/8 teaspoon salt
2 teaspoons grated orange peel (optional)

Heat oven to 350 degrees. Prepare Brown Sugar Topping (see below). Spray pie plate, 10 X 1-1/2 inches, with nonstick cooking spray. Place ingredients above in a blender or food processor in the order listed. Cover and blend until smooth. Pour into pie plate. Sprinkle with topping. Bake 50 to 55 minutes or until knife inserted in center comes out clean. Cool 15 minutes. Refrigerate about 4 hours or until chilled. 8 servings.

Brown Sugar Topping

1/4 cup packed brown sugar
1/4 cup quick-cooking oats
1 tablespoon margarine, softened.

Mix all ingredients.


Nutrition Information per Serving (partial list)

Calories - 185
Fat, g - 2 (Saturated fat - 1 gram)
Fiber, g - 1
Cholesterol, mg - 2
Sodium mg - 160
Potassium, mg - 320
Protein - 10%
Vitamin A - 100%
Calcium - 16%


Betty Crocker's New Choices Cookbook

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Post by Guest » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:48 pm

Babs,

Thanks for the encouragement. I think I just set the bar way too high for myself most of the time and then get disappointed when I don't reach that goal. I'm going to keep on plugging though.

Congrats on finding a gym that you like and is convenient for you to use. It's great that you already know people who go there. Having a buddy will help a lot to keep you motivated. It also makes it fun and the time goes by quickly. I didn't know anyone and have been going solo. I hear ya about the kids running around. In the gym I go to there is a area for the youth and I never see them. In the area I work out, you must be 21 or over to access. It is where they have the best machines that have television on them and the super duper weight training area. So, they definitely don't want kids in that area. We have a hot tub, sauna, pool, cafe and classes galore. Good luck with your meeting with your trainer. I just loved mine. I met with her the first workout session and she met with me again after six weeks. It just so happens that she is now my yoga teacher too. So, go kick butt at the gym.

Have a GREAT vacation!

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Post by LavenderMist » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:50 pm

Thank you WearyOne for posting the recipe. It's a great time of year to have that recipe. I'm sure many will enjoy it.

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Post by LavenderMist » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:28 pm

Ok, I raise my hand....I'm guilty! I have a tendency to go all out when I do something when I need to learn how to be balanced. Thought I'd share this in case someone else is doing like I've been doing and pushing way too hard.


OVERTRAINING

Not giving your body the rest it needs may lead to a sports injury disaster!


This month we're going to have a look at the difference between being just a little tired or on a down-cycle, and being legitimately run down or over tired. It’s important to be able to tell the difference if you want to stay injury free. Nothing will put a stop to your fitness goals more quickly than not being able to recognise when you’re legitimately run down and over tired.

One of the biggest challenges to achieving your fitness goals is consistency. If you’re repeatedly getting sick, run down and overtrained it becomes very difficult to stay injury free. So, how do you keep the consistency of regular exercise, without over doing it and becoming sick or injured?

Amateur and professional athletes alike are constantly battling with the problem of overtraining. Being able to juggle just the right amount of training, with enough sleep and rest, and the perfect nutritional diet is not an easy act to master. Throw in a career and a family and it becomes near impossible.

So, what is overtraining? Overtraining is the result of giving your body more work or stress than it can handle. Overtraining occurs when a person experiences stress and physical trauma from exercise faster than their body can repair the damage.

Now this doesn’t happen overnight, or as a result of one or two work-outs. In fact, regular exercise is extremely beneficial to your general health and fitness, but you must remember that it’s exercise that breaks your body down, while it’s the rest and recovery that makes you stronger and healthier. Improvements only occur during the times of rest.

Remember stress can come from a multitude of sources. It’s not just physical stress that causes overtraining. Sure, excessive exercise may lead to overtraining, but don't forget to consider other stresses, such as family or work commitments. Remember, stress is stress, whether it’s a physical, mental or emotional stress, it still has the same effect on your health and well-being.

Reading The Signs


At this point in time there are no tests which can be performed to determine whether you are over trained or not. You can’t go to your local doctor or even a sports medicine laboratory and ask for a test for overtraining. However, while there are no tests for overtraining, there are a number of signs and symptoms that you should be on the lookout for. These signs and symptoms should act as a warning bell, which will give you advanced notice of possible dangers to come.

There are quite a number of signs and symptoms to be on the lookout for. To make it easier for you to recognise them I’ve grouped them into either physical or psychological signs and symptoms.

Now, suffering from any one or two of the following signs or symptoms doesn’t automatically mean you are suffering from overtraining. However, if you recognise a number, say 5 or 6 of the following signs and symptoms, then it may be time to take a close look at the volume and intensity of your work load.

Physical Signs & Symptoms;


Elevated resting pulse / heart rate
Frequent minor infections
Increased susceptibility to colds and flu’s
Increases in minor injuries
Chronic muscle soreness or joint pain
Exhaustion
Lethargy
Weight loss
Appetite loss
Insatiable thirst or dehydration
Intolerance to exercise
Decreased performance
Delayed recovery from exercise



Psychological Signs & Symptoms;


Fatigued, tired, drained, lack of energy
Reduced ability to concentrate
Apathy or no motivation
Irritability
Anxiety
Depression
Headaches
Insomnia
Inability to relax
Twitchy, fidgety or jittery



As you can see by the number of signs and symptoms there are a lot of things to look out for. Generally the most common signs and symptoms to look for are a total loss of motivation in all areas of your life (work or career, health and fitness etc.), plus a feeling of exhaustion. If these two warning signs are present, plus a couple of the other listed signs and symptoms, then it may be time to take a short rest before things get out of hand.

The Answer To The Problem



Okay, you feel run down and totally exhausted. You’ve got no motivation to do anything. You can’t get rid of that niggling knee injury. You’re irritable, depressed and have totally lost your appetite. Sounds like you’re over trained. What do you do now?

As with most things, prevention is by far better than cure, so lets start by having a quick look at a few things you can do to prevent overtraining.

Only making small and gradual increases to your exercise program over a period of time. Eating a well balanced, nutritious diet. Ensuring adequate relaxation and sleep. Being prepared to modify your training to suit environmental conditions. For example, on a very hot day, going to the pool instead of out in the sun. Being able to monitor other stresses on your life and make adjustments to suit. Avoiding monotonous training, by varying your exercise as much as possible. Not exercising during an illness, and most of all be flexible and have some fun with what you do.

While prevention should always be your aim, there will be times when overtraining will occur and you’ll need to know what to do to get back on track.

Your first priority is to put your feet up and take a rest. Anywhere from 3 to 5 days should do the trick, depending on how severe the overtraining is. During this time forget about exercise, your body needs a rest so give it one. A physical rest, as well as a mental rest. There’s no point in beating yourself up mentally over losing a few days exercise.

Try to get as much sleep and relaxation as possible. Go to bed early and catch a nap whenever you can. Make sure you increase your intake of highly nutritious foods and take an extra dose of vitamins and minerals.

After the initial 3 to 5 days rest you can gradually get back into your normal exercise routine, but start off slowly. Most research states that it’s okay to start off with the same intensity and time of exercise but cut back on the frequency. So if you would normally exercise 3 or 4 times a week, cut that back to only twice a week for the next week or two. After that you should be right to resume your normal exercise regime.

Sometimes it’s a good idea to have a rest, like the one outlined above, whether you’re feeling run down or not. It will give both your mind and body a chance to fully recover from any problems that may be building up without you even knowing it. It will also freshen you up, give you a renewed motivation and help you to look forward to your exercise again. Don’t underestimate the benefits of a good rest.

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Post by Chris61 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:53 pm

This is a great thread. I was banded on 9/19/07 and since my sleep study in June of 07 I have gone from 250 to 217 a total of 31 lbs. Go to the doctor next week for check up with the band and hope to get a fill right after thanksgiving. Will have new numbers next week. Does any one have numbers of how much weigh loss causes the numbers to drop with sleep apena?

Chris

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Post by Guest » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:53 pm

Oh yeah? I've never known anyone with a lap band. Glad you're here! Keep us informed.

My Mom wants me to go get one. I've had some surgical horror stories, so I have gracefully declined. So far. Ya' never know.

Vacation has taken me off the exercise and diet treadmill. Have to get back up there. I see the trainer on the 17th and she's going to kick my butt, I'm sure.

Cheers,
Babs

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Post by LavenderMist » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:01 pm

Chris61,
I don't think there are any fixed numbers or percentages on apnea reduction with weight loss. Some people lose weight and are able to reduce pressure and others are not. Also, you have to take into account that some apnea sufferers are of normal weight and yet still have OSA. I know that isn't an answer, but I don't think there are any solid numbers on this. I lost 30 lbs and my cpap pressure has gone up, so go figure. Having said that, there are still plenty of good reasons healthwise to lose weight whether or not we get decreased cpap pressure or cpap discontinuance from the weight loss.

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Post by TXKajun » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:17 pm

Okie dokie, time for me to fess up.

3 1/2 weeks ago, I went down to the gym at work after I got off. I managed to do a whopping 3 minutes on the stair stepper. I did get in some crunches and leg lifts for ab work, a few pushups and then some chest and arm exercises with 10 lb dumbells. Course, I was exhausted after....and a little sore the next couple of days.

Long story short....I've been going faithfully every Monday, Wednesday and Friday (cept last Friday...Sweetie finally had her surgical procedures. HURRAYYY) and am now up to 15 minutes on stair stepper, 50 crunches, 40 leg lifts, 25 side crunches on each side, 20 pushups and doing my chest/bicep/tricep work with 15 lb dumbells and a cooldown of 1/4 mile on the treadmill. Soreness has gone...which was never bad, cuz I did it right!

I haven't become any lighter, but I sure do feel better. In fact, I had a Dr. app't yesterday and my BP (which is usually kind of semi-high) was 122/77 and pulse (which is usually around 90) was 72. WOWZERS!!

Only thing is, now my Dr. wants me down between 17 and 20 lbs by next visit in January. He's gotta be nutz!! Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years....and allllllllll dat great food??? *SIGH* Oh well, I'm gonna give it a good try.

Anyone else got some progress to report???

Kajun

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Post by Guest » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:50 pm

Congrats Kajun on getting into the groove of working out. I was faithfully going every day until last Friday. I wasn't seeing big changes in the scale, but I felt better and my stamina was increasing. I got up to 45 min on the ellipitical machine along with doing stretching exercises and weights. Two times last week I blew out a vein with resultant blood pooling and bruising in my left calf muscle. I decided to wait until my doctor's appointment this morning to ask her about it before proceeding. I thought I might be pushing too hard. She tells me that it is nothing to worry about, only lack of estrogen and more common with people with fair skin like me, and that it will only get worse as I get older. I just turned 45 last month, so that is really a pleasant thought. Yippee, I can exercise, get fit and lose weight, but I'll keep blowing veins and be bruised up. I'll climb back on the workout wagon tomorrow.

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Post by TXKajun » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:59 pm

Lavendermist, c'mon! You're a kid compared to me (I'm 56)! LOL

Would some extra tight socks work..kind of like diabetes socks?? And maybe some ice after workouts? Sounds like you've got a good workout going, though. If your doc don't mind, then go for it, but use common sense....k??

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