Chicken dies after drinking Chinese bottled water

Anonymous wrote:

MickeyBaby wrote:My wife is Chinese and when we go back to China to visit her relatives she always buys bottled water for me. For herself, she just boils the tap water but says I am much better off drinking the bottled stuff. Hmmm...this article s causing me to rethink that.

The question which remains is, if you are unable to drink the bottled water in China, what CAN you drink? Dang!

Hey, don't re-up your life insurance policy and see if she quits feeding you bottled Chinese water....

LOL,
Babs

Babette,

We've just proved that "great minds think alike" (or that fools reason together).

I had the same thought, and was going to post, but then scrolled down to find you'd beat me to it.

Hope he's CPAPing with one eye open.

My husband has become very insistent on not consuming anything from China. He does however go to great lengths to find bottled water from Mexico.

I boycot china made food, toys and many more after seeing and getting email from friends who are ex-pats of how the food and some products manufactured in china. For exmaple:

1) Uses paper curdboard to massed and cook with local spices to make dumpling and buns.

2) Uses industrial salt to process pickles.

3) Process children lollys in a house next to a pig farm.

4) cooked unborned infants in soup for special health to get vitality.

5) high antibiotic in the pranws and many seafood.

Careful soon the yuan will poison the greebacks

Mckooi

Just read this series of posts having returned to Australia from a wonderful holiday with CPAP friends made via cpaptalk.com, in Seattle USA (& a stint into Canada via Vancouver Island on a family member's boat where 3 of the 5 of us were on CPAP ).

Having lived in china for several years and knowing some foreign attitudes to China & Chinese, can't help smiling to myself as I look up the dictionary to confirm to myself the meanings of xenophobia and racism

Just think, if China produced all this bottled poisoned water, the country's population would hardly be 1.25 billion people ? - they must have learned to do some things right - like how to feed themselves and protect from spoiled food over the past 2000 years.

Let us just get real about these type of xenophobic rants and try to see them for exactly what they are

DSM

The thing that REALLY got to me about the toys and lead paint fiasco is that these American companies go over there and contract for these toys to be made and painted there. No one made them do that. THEN when the lead paint fiasco hits they criticize the US government for lax supervision of imported products!!! They contracted for the darn things to be made and painted there, let THEM police for quality and safety. Why the h*ll should the average Americans' tax dollars pay to do their policing for them. To h*ll w/Matel, et al!

Yes the problem is not with the Chinese. As I said, they are taking a very important step right now to try to clean up their country as my husband can attest.

The real problem is capitolism. Big companies don't give a flying crap about individual little kids that get hurt. It is all about how much money they can make doing this. They go to China and EXPLOIT the underpaid workers there--these are AMERICANS choosing to do this.

If Americans valued QUALITY over CHEAPNESS, this would not be an issue.

I heard a news report that made a lot of sense. When you are looking at toys, don't go buy WHERE it is made, go by BRAND and whether or not is has the CE symbol, a European quality control symbol.

And if you wish to boycott the companies involved in the recall, go for it.

I thought I was being pretty safe buying my son wooden Thomas the Train toys. Wooden toys=old fashioned=safe, right? Not. Painted in China with lead paint too. Now, these toys are OUTRAGIOUSLY PRICED. And we are willing to buy them, thinking they are safe. But even this small toy company, making these wooden train sets is looking to maximize their profit, not doing quality control, and the kids get an inferior toy.

I'm not against Chinese workers making toys for American kids, if they are paid well and their work environment is safe. But why can't Americans make American toys? Why to we have to ship raw materials all over the world? Why do we see European bell peppers in the grocery store in July when there bell peppers being picked off of local farmers plants less than 20 miles away? Why do I get served an insipid tomato on a salad in a gourmet restaurant when the farmer's market was held THAT DAY just 3 blocks away?

It is sickening. And it has nothing to do with the Chinese. Americans have let this happen to ourselves.

I try to do what I can. Buy local when I can. Grow some of my own veg. But when a kid wants a certain toy, it isn't like I can find someone local to make it for him or make it myself. This is very frustrating.

Jen

_________________

CPAPopedia Keywords Contained In This Post (Click For Definition): news, clean

_________________

CPAPopedia Keywords Contained In This Post (Click For Definition): news, clean

LONG before NAFTA our American government has encouraged American industry and businesses to invest overseas w/tax incentives, etc.

And these business that actually built factories, etc. overseas actually aren't exploiting the workers because regardless how low the wage they are paying and how poor the quality of the work environment, if it is an American built and run plant the wages are higher and the work conditions better than the equivalent business built, owned and run by the local companies.

It seems, tho, that more and more American businesses aren't building and running the plants but rather just contracting w/local businesses to make the product; supposedly to that American business' specifications, and just as obviously w/o that American business' supervision of quality control.

I thought the article was hilarious and very "tabloidish". Just idiotic fun. Most of the posters took it in that same vein.

Not we get a rant about rants and another one wants to throw capitalism out!

I do need to get a life don't I?

rooster wrote:I thought the article was hilarious and very "tabloidish". Just idiotic fun. Most of the posters took it in that same vein.

I was tracking with Rooster on this. I took things as tongue-in-cheek.

While I agree with some of the statements made by those of you who took this seriously, I think on either side of an issue we need to be careful about drawing broad brush strokes.

When we say it's all the fault of the Chinese . . .

All the fault of the immigrants coming to America . . .

All the fault of Capitalism . . .

All the fault of those who refuse to buy American . . .

We do everyone a disservice, and avoid really dealing with the issues.

However, having said that, humor is often the greatest evidence of our xenophobia and racism. Take a look through our past history. When we don't vilify those we're against (whoever they may be at the moment, even if they are us) , we often make fun of them, denigrating cultures, beliefs, and personhood in order to make others seem less significant.

So thanks Rooster for starting this thread.

Thanks to everyone else for sharing.

Thanks to DSM and Socknitster for not letting us go too far in making the Chinese out to be devils (an old reference often made).

And may the conversation continue . . . [/u]

Well if you read the article carefully, it was Reuters reporting on an article in a Chinese paper. So the Chinese are xenophobic about the Chinese.

rooster wrote:Well if you read the article carefully, it was Reuters reporting on an article in a Chinese paper. So the Chinese are xenophobic about the Chinese.

Gotta watch that hidden racism. Chinese against Chinese .

Sometimes all of us get on our little rants and forget to look at the source.

Once again, taking ourselves a little too seriously.

rooster wrote:Well if you read the article carefully, it was Reuters reporting on an article in a Chinese paper. So the Chinese are xenophobic about the Chinese.

We have met the enemy, and it is us!

Hi,

Apologies if my previous message upset any one.

This is a very serious issues on ethics on both sides (America Corpoarets that taking advantages of cheap labors and maximizaions of proficts ) and China ( crazy over profits making to cut costs and finding ways to cut conners).

Just imagine all the food and stuffs that bought and put into our bodies over the years and not event one company is serious tracking the chain effects on health, monetary refunds, time lost and performance deterorations of one over all well being). !!!!!!Not event one company welling to track on all the time, money etc that we pay and spent and when problems occures.

Accountability and ethics are the huge problesm in the world.
Personally, I see more duirng visits and self-experience.

Nothing againts anyone at all (all human have good hearts if chances are given, we all are born with families, father, mother, brothers, sisters, unlces, anuties, cousins, neices, nephews, inlaws, mates, freinds and counting on.....most importantly we pray in the church). Life is too short normally 70yrs, lucky if make it to 80+.

Sincerely,
Mckooi

This chicken sure has legs

Just to add some further thoughts - China is going through the same type of 'wild west' growth the businesses went thru in the 50s/60s when consumers got some very rough deals from some large companies.

Think Ralph Nader.

China has a lot to learn about how to manage explosive growth & from my own observations, they are having some successes & some losses.

The positive thing for the Chinese is that the growth (good & bad aspects) is raising the std of living for a scarily large population. No mean feat.

There are many strange (to us westerners) things that seem to happen there - a lot to do with workers rights etc: but as happened in the west, they will have to deal with these issues as they learn but at least have the benefits of outside prior experience.

One aspect of their growth is that foreign companies are running headfirst into China to take advantage of the lax laws & rules for things like consumer protection & worker's rights.

But, it is a situation where the country really can only go through some rough patches in these matters while they build up their economy & experience.

If I had to bet on the successful outcome of China modernizing & introducing a working democracy vs what has happened & been happening in Russia, I'd back the Chinese to do a better job

DSM