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Post by ozij » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:40 am

Wulfman... wrote:
SOC wrote:what are you going to do if it stops working. Aussie dealers will not touch the machine since it was bought in the US.
WHAT??????
You mean people aren't supposed to leave the country where they purchased things or order things outside of the country where they reside?
I thought the FRIENDLY brick & mortar DMEs were ready, willing and able to work on this stuff, regardless of where it was purchased.

I recall someone using automobile dealerships in comparing it to DMEs (middleman sales). If you're traveling out of state or country, at least the auto dealers WILL work on your vehicles if you have problems.....or you may find service at a smaller mechanic shop.

I'm SHOCKED......just SHOCKED!

<snip>

Of course you are, Den, but why am I laughing my head off?

O.

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Post by dsm » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:35 am

billbolton wrote:
dsm wrote:[covered in sections 38-45 (they should know what that means)
I'd previously been told by Customs that GST and duty was payable, but using this information I've found these exemptions....

"What health goods are exempt from GST on importation?
In general, health goods imported by a business entity are taxable importations (although certain specified medical aids and appliances are always exempt). Certain drugs and medicinal preparations imported by the person who will consume those goods may be, however, exempt in certain specified circumstances."
- Australian Customs Service

Sections 38-45 refers to Schedule 3 to the Australian Government GST Act. GST Exemption (GTSE) code B124 in that Schedule applies to "Continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) appliances"

This may also be useful....

http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resou ... cGuide.pdf

Cheers,

Bill
Bill

Good on yer mate - great find.

This puts paid to the confusion as spread by overworked under incented customs officers.

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Post by sionghua » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:45 am

Thanks all, all these help are really appreciated and they are of great help to me if custom is causing problem when the package arrives in Australia, again, thank you all

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Post by echo » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:51 pm

Good luck on your shipment! I'm glad others have done the leg work for you.. .. i just wanted to share what happened with my purchase, though I live in Europe and it's probably much different than Australia! (i'm just trying to increase my post count )

Anyway I also purchased from CPAP.com and had it shipped to my mom in the U.S., who sent it by USPS to me - I ended up paying 10 euro customs tax for a $300 purchase ($150 mask + $150 pulse ox). It was declared as medical equipment.


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Post by Guest » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:30 pm

sionghua wrote:Thanks all, all these help are really appreciated and they are of great help to me if custom is causing problem when the package arrives in Australia, again, thank you all
Sionghua

If your friend writes clearly on the outside that it is

Medical Equipment - CPAP

Then it should go straight thru customs. If they decide they want to inspect it, it will go to the Customs Clearing depot (if you live in Sydney, that is at Clyde - next to Lidcombe).

They will ask you to come in and bring all documentation - that is why you need not fear declaring it at its full price - just be sure your cpap.com invoice matches it).

They may still pull th 'this id dutiable' line but if you can take the copy of the doc Bill posted, they will then relax and let it through.

It always amused me, the times I had to go through this, how they start off being brusque, but when you politely show them the supporting docs, how friendly they then become. In fact you might believe they all have split personalities - I have never had any of them be other than friendly once they had the right info

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Post by sionghua » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:45 am

Hi, Thanks for all the advices, I am in Melbourne, they just replied my email sent a few days before I started this thread. Looks like it's likely that I will have to give a visit to them when the package arrive, this reply was received even I specifically mentioned that it's a Medical Device - CPAP machine...hi Bill where did you get the quote?
"What health goods are exempt from GST on importation?
In general, health goods imported by a business entity are taxable importations (although certain specified medical aids and appliances are always exempt). Certain drugs and medicinal preparations imported by the person who will consume those goods may be, however, exempt in certain specified circumstances."
- Australian Customs Service
I guess I have to print that 54 pages of
DOCUMENTARY IMPORT DECLARATION COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE and show them B124-128 when I go there. I am tired all these people who are supposed to know something but they don't, but they still want to act as if they really know everything.

This is the letter I got from them...
Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your enquiry.

Generally, all goods imported into Australia are subject to Customs duty and
GST and are assessed for community protection risks. However, all goods
(except for tobacco and alcoholic beverages) may be imported duty and tax
free if the value of the goods is A$1000 or less.

Your imported goods may arrive in Australia either by airfreight, express
courier, sea cargo or via the post office. As such, the method of delivery
will determine the Customs clearance formalities and charges.
Irrespective of how your imported goods arrive in Australia, you will be
required to lodge a formal Customs import declaration if their value is
above $1,000, and to pay the calculated duty and taxes. Formal import
declarations can be lodged either electronically or by document as follows:
· Electronic lodgement: obtain a digital certificate in order to
communicate with Customs' electronic systems to complete a formal import
declaration or engage the services of a customs broker (listed in the Yellow
Pages); or
· Documentary lodgement: go to the nearest Customs office and
present the necessary documentation including evidence of identity.

Imported goods with a value of less than A$1000 arriving by post will be
released duty and tax free by Customs for delivery direct to the addressee
except for tobacco, tobacco products and alcoholic beverages or goods
subject to import permit requirements. In these cases, you will be contacted
and notified of the action you must take.
Imported goods arriving otherwise than by post will require the completion
of a Self Assessed Clearance (SAC) declaration before clearance from Customs
control SAC declarations can only be lodged electronically.
No cost recovery charges are imposed by Customs on SAC declarations but
administrative/processing charges may be imposed by carriers acting on your
behalf.
Where the carrier of your goods has sufficient information available to be
satisfied that no duty or taxes apply and that no import permit is required,
they may lodge the SAC declaration on your behalf.
If the carrier cannot, or will not, lodge a SAC declaration on your behalf,
you may either obtain a digital certificate in order to communicate with
Customs' electronic systems to enable you to lodge a SAC declaration or
engage the services of a customs broker or bureau to lodge a SAC declaration
on your behalf.

On the customs website http://www.customs.gov.au on the right hand side of the home
page, the third subject is prohibited and restricted goods. This list items
which are prohibited imports or goods requiring a permit.
There is no requirement for companies or individuals to hold an import
licence. However, depending on the nature of the commodity, and regardless
of value, owners may need to obtain permits to facilitate clearance of
goods.

You can classify your goods, and find the duty rate, in three ways :
1/ From our website http://www.customs.gov.au ,select "import export" (from the
left side of the home page), select "customs tariff", scroll to the
appropriate Chapter and find the tariff number and duty rate. ( check
Schedule 5, US Free Trade Agreement by scrolling down to the end of the
Tariff and check in "Schedule 5")
2/ Employ the services of a licensed Australian Customs Agent/Broker,
available from an Australian commercial phone directory.
3/ Apply for a Tariff Advice using a form B102 available from our website
http://www.customs.gov.au , select "media publications and forms", select "forms" ,
scroll to B102 (Application for Tariff Advice. I have included a copy of the
B102 with this email. I have attached the form for your convenience.
You can submit the form at your local Customs Office, or you can fax the
form to your appropriate state office. The fax numbers for each state are
as follows:

QLD - (07) 3835 3141
VIC - (03) 9244 8680
WA - (08) 9430 1391
SA - (08) 8447 9487
TAS - (03) 6230 1261
NT - (08) 8946 6540
NSW/ACT - (02) 8339 6711


Duty will be applied to the valuue of the goods. Goods and Services Tax
(GST) 10% will be applied to the value of the goods + the Duty + Freight and
Insurance.





If you have any further enquiries please do not hesitate to contact us on
ph. 1300 363 263 or alternatively visit our website at http://www.customs.gov.au.

Regards,
John Bof
Senior Information Officer
Customs Information & Support Centre
Ph. 1300 363 263
Fax. (02) 8339 6714
For more information on Customs refer to: http://www.customs.gov.au
Please respond to email address information@customs.gov.au to ensure your
communication with us is answered.
The information above is provided as a guide only and should be clarified by
either lodging a formal advice request with the appropriate section of
Customs or employing the services of a licensed customs broker, if
appropriate.


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Post by dsm » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:38 am

sionghua wrote:Hi, Thanks for all the advices, I am in Melbourne, they just replied my email sent a few days before I started this thread. Looks like it's likely that I will have to give a visit to them when the package arrive, this reply was received even I specifically mentioned that it's a Medical Device - CPAP machine...hi Bill where did you get the quote?
"What health goods are exempt from GST on importation?
In general, health goods imported by a business entity are taxable importations (although certain specified medical aids and appliances are always exempt). Certain drugs and medicinal preparations imported by the person who will consume those goods may be, however, exempt in certain specified circumstances."
- Australian Customs Service
I guess I have to print that 54 pages of
DOCUMENTARY IMPORT DECLARATION COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE and show them B124-128 when I go there. I am tired all these people who are supposed to know something but they don't, but they still want to act as if they really know everything.

This is the letter I got from them...
Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your enquiry.

Generally, all goods imported into Australia are subject to Customs duty and
GST and are assessed for community protection risks. However, all goods
(except for tobacco and alcoholic beverages) may be imported duty and tax
free if the value of the goods is A$1000 or less.

Your imported goods may arrive in Australia either by airfreight, express
courier, sea cargo or via the post office. As such, the method of delivery
will determine the Customs clearance formalities and charges.
Irrespective of how your imported goods arrive in Australia, you will be
required to lodge a formal Customs import declaration if their value is
above $1,000, and to pay the calculated duty and taxes. Formal import
declarations can be lodged either electronically or by document as follows:
· Electronic lodgement: obtain a digital certificate in order to
communicate with Customs' electronic systems to complete a formal import
declaration or engage the services of a customs broker (listed in the Yellow
Pages); or
· Documentary lodgement: go to the nearest Customs office and
present the necessary documentation including evidence of identity.

Imported goods with a value of less than A$1000 arriving by post will be
released duty and tax free by Customs for delivery direct to the addressee
except for tobacco, tobacco products and alcoholic beverages or goods
subject to import permit requirements. In these cases, you will be contacted
and notified of the action you must take.
Imported goods arriving otherwise than by post will require the completion
of a Self Assessed Clearance (SAC) declaration before clearance from Customs
control SAC declarations can only be lodged electronically.
No cost recovery charges are imposed by Customs on SAC declarations but
administrative/processing charges may be imposed by carriers acting on your
behalf.
Where the carrier of your goods has sufficient information available to be
satisfied that no duty or taxes apply and that no import permit is required,
they may lodge the SAC declaration on your behalf.
If the carrier cannot, or will not, lodge a SAC declaration on your behalf,
you may either obtain a digital certificate in order to communicate with
Customs' electronic systems to enable you to lodge a SAC declaration or
engage the services of a customs broker or bureau to lodge a SAC declaration
on your behalf.

On the customs website http://www.customs.gov.au on the right hand side of the home
page, the third subject is prohibited and restricted goods. This list items
which are prohibited imports or goods requiring a permit.
There is no requirement for companies or individuals to hold an import
licence. However, depending on the nature of the commodity, and regardless
of value, owners may need to obtain permits to facilitate clearance of
goods.

You can classify your goods, and find the duty rate, in three ways :
1/ From our website http://www.customs.gov.au ,select "import export" (from the
left side of the home page), select "customs tariff", scroll to the
appropriate Chapter and find the tariff number and duty rate. ( check
Schedule 5, US Free Trade Agreement by scrolling down to the end of the
Tariff and check in "Schedule 5")
2/ Employ the services of a licensed Australian Customs Agent/Broker,
available from an Australian commercial phone directory.
3/ Apply for a Tariff Advice using a form B102 available from our website
http://www.customs.gov.au , select "media publications and forms", select "forms" ,
scroll to B102 (Application for Tariff Advice. I have included a copy of the
B102 with this email. I have attached the form for your convenience.
You can submit the form at your local Customs Office, or you can fax the
form to your appropriate state office. The fax numbers for each state are
as follows:

QLD - (07) 3835 3141
VIC - (03) 9244 8680
WA - (08) 9430 1391
SA - (08) 8447 9487
TAS - (03) 6230 1261
NT - (08) 8946 6540
NSW/ACT - (02) 8339 6711


Duty will be applied to the valuue of the goods. Goods and Services Tax
(GST) 10% will be applied to the value of the goods + the Duty + Freight and
Insurance.





If you have any further enquiries please do not hesitate to contact us on
ph. 1300 363 263 or alternatively visit our website at http://www.customs.gov.au.

Regards,
John Bof
Senior Information Officer
Customs Information & Support Centre
Ph. 1300 363 263
Fax. (02) 8339 6714
For more information on Customs refer to: http://www.customs.gov.au
Please respond to email address information@customs.gov.au to ensure your
communication with us is answered.
The information above is provided as a guide only and should be clarified by
either lodging a formal advice request with the appropriate section of
Customs or employing the services of a licensed customs broker, if
appropriate.

xPAP and Quattro std mask (plus a pad-a-cheek anti-leak strap)

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Post by billbolton » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:59 am

sionghua wrote:hi Bill where did you get the quote?
Its somewhere fairly obvious on the Australian Customs web site. Use the search facility on that site and search on "GST exempt".

Cheers,

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Post by sionghua » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:17 am

Hi all,

I just got my A-Flex today and it works perfectly, Australian Custom did not cause any problem. Thanks so much to everyone for all your helps

sionghua

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Post by GreenIce » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:33 am

Glad it work out for you.