a great tip and a new problem

inacpapfog · Post by **inacpapfog** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:41 pm

I was miserable with a straight pressure cpap blowing at a constant pressure all night, whether I needed it or not!
Once I switched to apap, I was fine! No more aerophagia!!!
And data reports support that ,for the most of the night, my pressure was actually 2 points LOWER than the prescribed pressure! There were just a few times that the apap had to rev up to prescribed pressure in order to clear my airway!
Low AHI and HI also demonstrate that I am ideal canidate to fare better on an apap than a cpap! Results vary with each person but I am sure glad that I tried the apap option!

RosemaryB · Post by **RosemaryB** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:14 pm

[quote="cosmiccowpoke"]Well, I turned my pressure down to 7 last night (should be 10), and slept pretty well with minor tolerable gas. I've heard some people talk about apap being better for people with GERD/hiatal hernia related aerophagia. Has anybody out there tried it with any success?

AdmiralCougar · Post by **AdmiralCougar** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:41 pm

RosemaryB wrote:
cosmiccowpoke wrote:Well, I turned my pressure down to 7 last night (should be 10), and slept pretty well with minor tolerable gas. I've heard some people talk about apap being better for people with GERD/hiatal hernia related aerophagia. Has anybody out there tried it with any success?
For some people the newest autopap by respironics with AFlex seems to help from what I read here. I got an auto with CFlex and the CFlex causes me more distress. For many people, it seems just the opposite, they are helped by it. Some of this is very individual, I think.

My aerophagia has gotten better over the past several months since I first started. But, when my GERD acts up, I have more aerophagia, plus leaks from mouth puffing. Recently it's been acting up and I've pinned down the cause: caffeine. Now, I don't mean 5 pots of coffee a day, I mean one single cup of black tea in the morning. I thought I could start drinking tea again since it didn't seem to be throwing my circadian cyles off balance and causing night time sleeping problems now that I have the cpap. Wrong! My circadian cycles are fine, but it wreaks havoc with my GERD. That, in turn was causing more aerophagia and more leaks out my mouth (blowfish effect).

Sigh. I really love the taste of tea in the morning. Decaf teas and herbal teas are pale imitations. But I've cut it out again.

Well I really don't have long term data to to support this but I was waking up with aerophagia everyday when I was on straight BiPAP, On Tuesday the Tech/Dr. had it changed to Auto the first two nights I woke up with very little to none, but last night I was talked into having Pizza and well Pizza aggravates my stomach like crazy so needless to say another morning with a sore tummy... Plus I kept waking up all night. I know I need to be strong and turn it down, but Pizza is like my favorite food... I'm probably in for another night tonight... Stupid left overs...

Christy

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:07 am

Anonymous wrote:
I'd love to hear if there are any side sleepers out there that have found peace with a full face mask.
I have. Found peace from night #1, and ever since for a year now. Fischer and Paykel HC431 full-face mask. Side sleeper. Total success. No leaks, no wakeups, low treated AHI, no problems whatsoever.

Its "glider strap" and under-chin design might be helping with that. It truly is an excellent, excellent mask.

Forget about "mouth breathing" and using the oversize rubberbands around your head or the "hostage tape" on your mouth, it's pretty ridiculous. Get a full-face mask, adapt to it (usually doesn't take long), and then breathe freely through ALL THREE HOLES as nature intended you to. If your tire had three holes in it, would you just patch two and then put a big rubberband around the tire hoping to keep the third hole closed, or maybe put a piece of tape over the third hole every day? Heck no, you'd just cover all three holes, silly!

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:09 am

[quote="cosmiccowpoke"]Well, I turned my pressure down to 7 last night (should be 10), and slept pretty well with minor tolerable gas. I've heard some people talk about apap being better for people with GERD/hiatal hernia related aerophagia. Has anybody out there tried it with any success?

preemiern · Post by **preemiern** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:59 am

If your tire had three holes in it, would you just patch two and then put a big rubberband around the tire hoping to keep the third hole closed, or maybe put a piece of tape over the third hole every day? Heck no, you'd just cover all three holes, silly!

sleepngo · Post by **sleepngo** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:06 am

[quote="preemiern"]If your tire had three holes in it, would you just patch two and then put a big rubberband around the tire hoping to keep the third hole closed, or maybe put a piece of tape over the third hole every day? Heck no, you'd just cover all three holes, silly!

preemiern · Post by **preemiern** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:51 am

Just wanted to make sure that it was known that I am NOT the guest who wrote about the three holes in the tire, and getting used to ff masks--I was trying to copy that quote into my post up above about the three tires so I could say that I would cover the third hole with saran wrap.
Can somebody explain to me however what you do with the saran wrap? I'm trying to picture how it would work...Thanks!! And I mean in relation to CPAP--not any other uses--LOL!!!

Cindy

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:15 pm

Dan,

Rather than use saran with liberty, you might try the swift. I believe the pillows are the same and they might be more comfy. If you had said Hybrid, I would have recommended the bravo (same parallel).

Obviously I'm biased because I love the swift. I tried the liberty but because of my profile, it dug into my upper lip. I wish it had worked for me. Until the manufacturers make a mask specific to those with an underbite, I'm sol when it comes to ff masks.

Jen

sleepngo · Post by **sleepngo** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:42 pm

[quote="socknitster"]Dan,

Rather than use saran with liberty, you might try the swift. I believe the pillows are the same and they might be more comfy. If you had said Hybrid, I would have recommended the bravo (same parallel).

Obviously I'm biased because I love the swift. I tried the liberty but because of my profile, it dug into my upper lip. I wish it had worked for me. Until the manufacturers make a mask specific to those with an underbite, I'm sol when it comes to ff masks.

Jen

sleepngo · Post by **sleepngo** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:02 pm

[quote="preemiern"]Just wanted to make sure that it was known that I am NOT the guest who wrote about the three holes in the tire, and getting used to ff masks--I was trying to copy that quote into my post up above about the three tires so I could say that I would cover the third hole with saran wrap.
Can somebody explain to me however what you do with the saran wrap? I'm trying to picture how it would work...Thanks!! And I mean in relation to CPAP--not any other uses--LOL!!!

Cindy

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:49 pm

apap gives the lower set point pressure as long as possible and only increases as required to open an in process event. The lower pressure means less air in the tummy. Have you thought of using an elastic band to keep pressure on the stomach? This might increase your GERD symptom though.

TerryB

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:51 pm

[quote="TerryB"]apap gives the lower set point pressure as long as possible and only increases as required to open an in process event. The lower pressure means less air in the tummy. Have you thought of using an elastic band to keep pressure on the stomach? This might increase your GERD symptom though.

TerryB

preemiern · Post by **preemiern** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:27 pm

hey-Jen--I take it from your username that you are a knitter?? I am as well--been knitting for 33 years...my grandma taught me when I was 10, and now I am knitting for my first two grandbabies!! I love to knit socks--but if I am knitting them for myself, I seem to have that one sock syndrome thing going on--I get one done in a pair, then am ready to go on to the next pair, to see how the new yarn will knit up--LOL!!!! I was hoping CPAP would cure that problem--but i am finding out that CPAP isn't a cure all for EVERY thing--LOL!! Nice to meet you!!

Cindy

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:46 am

Cindy,

Yes I have knit socks for a few years. I learned to knit from a book at around age 12 when my Grandmother's and Aunt's attempts to teach me crochet failed (they were both left-handed, I'm a righty). I gave up back then in frustration when Red Heart yarn and bad patterns couldn't get me what I wanted (if only I had known about Knitting Without Tears back then!) I knit a few sweaters and scarves back then. The best thing I made was a 12 ft Dr. Who scarf for a boy I had a crush on!

When I lived in Costa Rica in college, my host mom finally taught me to crochet in Spanish. I made a few things in crochet then but still wanted the versatility of knitwear. Had a few more unsuccessful attempts.

Finally after my son was born the show Knitty Gritty was on tv and I watched the episode about knitting socks with fascination. I taped it and watched it over and over until I convinced myself I could do it. Went to the local knitting store for some good yarn and that was it--I was HOOKED! Now if I don't knit everyday I feel like something is wrong. It is such a relaxing activity for me.

I'm even thinking about writing a book about 1800's knitting for reinactors. It would combine two of my interests: knitting and history, though I'm not a reinactor myself. I LOVE TO RESEARCH.

That is my knitting story!

Jen

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