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Babette wrote:It's not BRAINS. I know the diff. It's red when raw and white when cooked.

Unless I'm wrong, in which case, it was good and I'll still eat it.

LOL,
B.

I was just pulling your chain Babs. Besides, I never had any brains (and still don't) so how would I know.

It is sad to say that we probably couldn't feed the world population with properly pastured animals. Urban sprawl and McMansions and the dissolution of the family farm may have something to do with that. There are still lots of wide open spaces where better choices could me made. And really, we don't need to genetically modify our crops so that we can just dump more chemicals on them. That is pure insanity.

Farming needs to start using common sense and instead of dumping chemicals on a schedule as is typically done now, have ACTUAL FARMERS walking the fields looking for problem areas that need to be treated as soon as they are discovered. That is the way our great-grandfathers did it. They walked the fields every day, and responded to issues as needed to try to save the rest of the field from a problem.

My husband does the GI diet. He eats almost zero refined carbs. He calls sugar the devil! When he has the occasional sugar snack (he had a brownie at a holiday party recently) he noticed incredibly debilitating symptoms: he felt physically ill, had a headache, and intensely craved another brownie. Because of the way he eats, he has lost all insulin resistance. Meaning he is healthier than most of the rest of us! But when he does eat sugar it hits him hard. It has made him quite stubborn about the way he eats.

I would love to join him in the diet but because of my food allergies, it would be quit restrictive. He eats a lot of yogurt and drinks fat free milk which I can't have. My milk alternative, rice milk, is quite carby so that already throws it off. I do eat oatmeal for breakfast each day and try to do the best I can. But being pregnant, I'm not going to use sugar substitutes for obvious reasons. I do try to sweeten with fruit whenever possible. I just plain try to choose whole foods whenever possible. And I know I feel more dragged down when I eat too many sweets. One of these days I'm going to get my food completely under control and loose the rest of the weight I need to loose. It has taken years for me to make better and better choices, but I'm on the right path.

jen

Oh, Goose, I'm so proud of you!

I still remember the freezers full of meat that we shared with friends and family back when I was a kid. Each person who wanted to would "go in" for a percentage of the cost of raising a calf or piglet and then after they were done growing they would be slaughtered and the meat would be split up. The years we had animals our pasture looked like it was mowed, when we didn't have them it looked like a jungle.

Fun times too when the fence failed and we had to chase a cow down the country lane or highway.

Jen

Hey Babs,
Sometimes it's better if you don't know what it is!!!
Especially if it's delicious!!

Now -- "Shredded pork with fruit" in Spanish is: Cerdo destrozado con la fruta
Have the butcher write it down -- I'm curious....If you can con him into writing down the ingredients that would be fantastic....I'm certainly not above "stealing" a recipe!!!

Thanks Jen. Yeah -- it's certainly worth a try. It's a grand plan so we'll see if we can pull it off....
I remember the days when the egg man would deliver flats of free range eggs and sometimes chickens. Milk was delivered to the door. Sometimes there was a veggie and fruit wagon that made the rounds, and my folks bought beef by the half steer from a local farm/butcher.

Unfortunately, Rooster is right in that the economics don't lend themselves to "family farms" any longer. The only way to "feed the masses" is with mega-farms. Sad but true....

But that doesn't preclude some of us from bucking the tide. When we do our steer, I'm sure that over half of it will be "for sale" only because we can't use it all in a reasonable period of time (I'm not a "meat and potatoes" kinda guy). One will lead to more.....

I'm not sure I could do the kind of diet your husband is doing.....I don't have that level of self discipline!!!

take care
cheers
goose

Hmmm ... why is it that the OSA patients that find themselves as members of this forum appear to be the smartest of the human population ... even with Rooster lacking any brains and all

Seems the members of this forum have all the answers to not only CPAP problems but also the world's problems. Maybe it's something in the air we breathe? Maybe we cpaptalkers need to run for office in '08 and rid the world of the staus quo politicians to put things right!

rooster wrote:

goose wrote:....... in our society we eat far too much meat for our good health!!!!
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goose

Goose,

I am glad to see that you understand something about the economics of feeding this country.

Do you really think eating too much meat is hurting the general population?

I recently hear someone on C-Span say that 40% of the calories consumed in the U.S. come from sugars that have been added to foods and soft drinks. Consumption of corn syrup is huge and cane sugars follows closely. (Sugars occurring naturally in fruits, vegetables, fruit juices, grains and breads were not counted in the 40%.) The impact of this much added sugar must be many times more damaging than the meat consumed.

I feel little guilt when eating an occasional Big Mac, but if I take a large soda and a large fry and an apple turnover, I feel like the temple is being defiled.

We eat burgers about once a week at home. Depending on what the market has, I buy 90-93% lean and leave the white-bread buns and frozen fries on the store shelves. We will have a couple large servings of vegetables, maybe some whole wheat toast, and fruit for dessert. That type of burger meal I am convinced is healthy.

This 40% sugar deal has bugged the crap out of me since I heard it. What huge costs this must impose on our health insurance, Medicare and Medicaid taxes and worker productivity?

Rooster

rooster wrote:

Babette wrote:...... As was the pork something or other that looked too interesting to pass up in the butcher case. I fried it up this AM with some scrambled eggs and salsa and it was yummy! Must go back for more. Some sort of shredded raw pork with onions and spices and PINEAPPLE. Anyone know what that might be? The lovely butcher didn't speak much English. I might have to go back and write down what it was called and look it up online. Started with an "A" but NOT Adobo. Albonado? Don't know what it's for, but it's great with eggs and salsa!
LOL,
Babs

I have had that. In rural Mexican villages it is very popular and comes with local fruit. Only in Mexico City did I see it with pineapple and a different Spanish name on the menu.

In the villages it is very popular and is called ancephalo - pork brains.

Sounds like seasoned POSSUM to me.

Sounds like seasoned POSSUM to me.

Tsk! Now, you know being a Southerner I couldn't let THAT slide!!!

I know it wasn't possum. Was far too tender and tasty.

LOL,
Babs

[quote="DreamStalker"]Hmmm ... why is it that the OSA patients that find themselves as members of this forum appear to be the smartest of the human population ... even with Rooster lacking any brains and all

Seems the members of this forum have all the answers to not only CPAP problems but also the world's problems. Maybe it's something in the air we breathe? Maybe we cpaptalkers need to run for office in '08 and rid the world of the staus quo politicians to put things right!

Yes! Maybe if everyone was on PAP treatment, the world would be a better place ... or at least more logical

rooster wrote:

goose wrote:....
One of the things we here at "Mijo's Place" (the name of the ranch) have decided to do as soon as we can clear some of the brush in the horse paddock is to raise our own steer.....The object being that we'll know exactly what went into it!!!! Mega cattle are raised on pumped up food full of all kinds of drugs that are really un necessary for every animal.
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goose

No argument here that, for any one individual, things like free-range cattle and chicken can be healthier than mass-produced beef and chicken. But now comes the economic problem, if you look at our whole society, 300+ million people, how could we ever get them fed without mass-produced beef and chicken?

"Free range" is extremely land and labor intensive.

(Free-range chicken are better in bed too.)

I think it is possible to feed our entire population with local farms. We just have to ensure that farmers can make a living at it and make certain they have the land to farm. People have become used to paying less for food that is mass produced and developers snatch up farmland and turn it into high density housing. I believe we can have both housing and farms.

We support our local farmers and have the added benefit of fresher and better tasting food. We love it! Here is a link where you can key in your zip code and see a list of local farms in your area.
http://www.localharvest.org/

Here's to chemical free, nutritious good tasting food : )

rooster wrote:

goose wrote:....... in our society we eat far too much meat for our good health!!!!
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goose

Goose,

I am glad to see that you understand something about the economics of feeding this country.

Do you really think eating too much meat is hurting the general population?

I recently hear someone on C-Span say that 40% of the calories consumed in the U.S. come from sugars that have been added to foods and soft drinks. Consumption of corn syrup is huge and cane sugars follows closely. (Sugars occurring naturally in fruits, vegetables, fruit juices, grains and breads were not counted in the 40%.) The impact of this much added sugar must be many times more damaging than the meat consumed. . . .

There is a movie coming out http://www.kingcorn.net/ that explores the outcome of mass producing corn. Interesting : )

DreamStalker wrote:Yes! Maybe if everyone was on PAP treatment, the world would be a better place ... or at least more logical

I'm more than willing to swathe GW's face in plastic... Oh wait, do I have to cut air holes and give him O2?

Homicidally yours,
Babs

Anonymous wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:Yes! Maybe if everyone was on PAP treatment, the world would be a better place ... or at least more logical

I'm more than willing to swathe GW's face in plastic... Oh wait, do I have to cut air holes and give him O2?

Homicidally yours,
Babs

Well OK, you got me ... there may be some exceptions for who CPAP would not make a difference