Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

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Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

Post by ozij » Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:25 am

In the experience of those of you who use pressures 10 - 11: do you hear the motor rev up when you breathe in and when it does the FOT?
My machine starts quietly enough, but then gets louder.

Background info:
I started raising my pressure because I noticed I do have fewer obstructive events and less flow limitations when the pressure is higher - and I can tolerate the higher pressure, (couldn't in the past)
Concurrent to that, my humidifier leaked and I had to buy a new one.

When I start the machine, the new humidifier seems to make some kind of clacking noise - not loud. I haven't found a way of settling the lid that will keep this from happening.
The silicon seal inside the lid is very loose.

Questions:
Could the increasing noise be related to the new (but faulty) humidifier tub?
Can I use the machine without the humidifier, using that plastic seal side piece instead - at leas to see how the noise develops during the night?
Should I try to buy a new humidifier, or should I start thinking of a new machine? The present one, which had a blower replaced during warranty is about 3.5 years old. Very upsetting. Makes me want to buy from another company....

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Re: Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

Post by LSAT » Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:37 am

Using EPR could have something to do with it. If you have the EPR set at 3 with a pressure of 10, every time you exhale, the pressure drops to 7. 10/7 10/7, Inhale 10/ Exhale 7.

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Re: Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

Post by lazarus » Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:15 pm

It is my opinion that the market needs to provide better competition because ResMed is starting to slip in it's quality control, build quality, and premarket testing.

In my experience, I consider the 8 to have been the pinnacle of great design and reliability for ResMed. Better than the 7 I used briefly, better than the 9, 10, and (based on reading, not experience) the 11.

I keep cheering for another company, any company, to catch up and surpass ResMed. But I don't see it any time soon, sadly. Competition would be a healthy thing, and when the other runners aren't up to par, the lead runner starts to slack off too.

I have found my three 8s to be built like convenient, reliable military tanks. My S9 is a little iffy: Cutesy, great technology, but a bit cheap and difficult to manage.

I have had three 10s, two of which have had various noise issues that developed over time. I run my APAPs 8 to 20 with EPR of 3. One has a noisy seal and the other has a noisy motor. The third still seems OK for now, although I have to position my pillow carefully to keep from hearing the machine through the mask.

I still use an 8 as my travel machine.

I will still recommend a ResMed 10 over everything else out there, but only because it is a less-problematic brand than the others and has superior technology. Other than that, I consider ResMed to be visibly slipping from the present lack of market competition.

Just my 2 cents.

I still love ResMed machines, and I still have issues with how the company is run. But hey, just me.
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Re: Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

Post by palerider » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:03 pm

ozij wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:25 am

Can I use the machine without the humidifier, using that plastic seal side piece instead - at leas to see how the noise develops during the night?
Should I try to buy a new humidifier, or should I start thinking of a new machine? The present one, which had a blower replaced during warranty is about 3.5 years old. Very upsetting. Makes me want to buy from another company....
If I don't use the humidifier tub (empty) and instead use a blanking plate, Io hear a lot more transmitted noise through the hose. so I just run with an empty tank most of the time.

Check the filter, and you might try swapping the seal from the old tank, if you still have it.

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Re: Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

Post by ozij » Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:57 pm

Thanks, guys.
EPR: possible, since I did try raising EPR from 2 to 3 when I upped the pressure.

Quality and competition: Sigh....
In principle, I can get European machines where I live.I do sleep better on fixed pressure and my AHI is not REM related [old sleep study]. So the issue boils down to noise, humidification and software. Have checked none of the above yet, but will.

I believe that Resmed is attempting to make their machines lighter and smaller as part of the general attempt by manufacturers to cut the weight of equipment they ship: less weight = less fuel used per machine shipped. You can be cynical and say the only want to cut shipping costs, but it boils down to the same thing: less fuel used per machine shipped = less harm to the atmosphere.

Seal and filter: I don't have the older seal, but I decided to replace the filter with a new one. And thanks for the tip about the plate - that's one test I won't be doing.

Will keep you updated.

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Re: Faulty (?) Autoset AS10 - need advice

Post by ozij » Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:40 am

Update:
The changed filter did not bring much improvement - maybe a bit. I'm very careful about the way I close the humidifier, and I'm on EPR=2.
Not much difference :( Don't really understand what makes it worse or better - but sometimes it almost feels like the noise wakes me up.

I do my best not let it make me too :x :x to sleep, but that's not easy!

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