Transcend Micro Cpap and HME/mask question

New User here.

I recently got a Somnetics Transcend Micro for future travel. I was testing it before traveling and I cannot help but compare it with my home setup which is a ResMed Airsense 10 with humidifier tank.

I think I need a way to humidify while using the Transcend Micro for comfort. I feel like it dries me all the way to my lungs. lol.

In my research I found these HME (Heat Moisture Exchange) Filters that should help but I also read my Airfit P10 nose pillows are not good to use with HME’s.

Any recommendation for masks/pillows I can use with both HME and Transcend Micro CPAP for a comfortable experience when away from home?

You need to look for a mask that doesn't use a short hose like the P10 does.

That little HME disk thingy needs to be really close to your nose to have any chance of it helping at all.

Thanks for info, Pugsy. I did not even know that hme has to sit close to nose.

Any recommendations for an HME kit and nose pillow? anyone?

I am thinking of buying the https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... setup-pack but it seems only compatible with Airmini Machine. Any adapters knwon to work with this to make it work with a regular 6' hose I use for AirSense 10 or my Transcend Micro hose?

The HME thing works on absorbing the moisture in your own exhaled breath and then giving some of it back to you when you inhale. If you have the HME thing far away from the nose you aren't going to get much, if any, added moisture when you inhale and that's why it is said that it doesn't work well with nasal pillows....most, if not all, nasal pillow masks use a short hose and where the HME has to go is so far away from the nose the moisture it can possibly give a person is just so far away that is doesn't reach the nose.

I am sorry but I don't know of any nasal pillow masks that would allow you to stick the HME disk thing up close to the nose.
Now there might be one out there that I don't know of but the P10 has the short hose and how it attaches to the frame where the pillow sits is a more solid connection and no way to slip something in between that short hose and the nasal pillow without doing major surgery and risking massive leaks when you try to attach the short hose back to the frame.

You would need a mask that would allow you to separate the short hose from the frame and then insert the HME thing and then re-attach the short hose so it wouldn't leak. I am familiar with the P10....it could maybe be done but it wouldn't be easy. Now I could do it with the Bleep/Eclipse because that mask's short hose is easily disconnected from the frame and re-attached easily. I just did that very thing yesterday because I wanted to change the diffuser material and the short hose gets in the way.

I just haven't used any other nasal pillow mask in so long that I just don't remember how they all attach to the frame...solid connection or easily disconnected. The P10 is my number 2 mask so I have used it recently so I know it wouldn't be easy.
Any other nasal pillow masks I haven't used in years and years and I just can't remember how the short hose is attached.
Sorry.

It could be done easily with the BLeep/Eclipse but it isn't a pillow mask. Maybe be done with some of the other pillow masks depending on that connection of the short hose to the frame. Maybe someone who uses one of the other nasal pillow masks could tell you about the connection to the frame and how easily it might be disconnected to insert the disk and then re-connect to the frame.

Thanks again, Pugsy. What you say makes sense. Looking at my p10 I think it is big risk for leaks. I dont want to be left with a leaky nose pillow somewhere with no access to supplies!

You did get me interested with Bleep Eclipse. No masks, no pillows!!! Never heard of it until now. lol.

You think this will work with Bleep? https://a.co/d/2HVBQwf

From the videos on the site it seems the eclipse uses a short hose too but you think HME's can be easily slipped inline with the Eclipse?

I think it will work but since I don't have one of those products to try out...can't swear to it since I haven't even ever seen one of those disk things. I don't see why it wouldn't though.

Give me a little bit and I will get you a picture of where the short hose attaches to the frame of the Eclipse and how easy it comes off an goes back on without compromising that seal.

Though I do have to be honest...The Eclipse is having a bit of problems right now with the metal rings sometimes prematurely coming loose from the halo adhesive. The original Bleep hasn't seemed to have that issue.
I am currently testing a trial of new production results that it was hoped the premature loosening of the metal rings was fixed.....but night one I had a failure...and last night no failure. Remains to be seen what the next 5 nights does as I am testing for 7 nights. We haven't yet figured out exactly what is going on to cause the ring failures but it's common enough that they are trying to figure it out and fix it.
I used 2 months (4 boxes) of halos and only had 2 failures and then the last 2 boxes it seemed like all I had was failures.
These were the original production release...and now I am trying a box of the most recent production and see how many failures I have.

Not everyone has experienced the metal ring coming loose....but enough people have had it happen that they are trying to figure out why and what to do about it.
The original Bleep might be a better choice right now but it is a bit fiddly compared to the Eclipse ease of attaching.

You can see how the short hose attaches to the frame....just slides over that little cup like place. Just takes a blink of an eye to do either disconnect or re-connect. Will it accommodate one of those HME thingies? I think it will but having never tried it I can't say for sure.

I see what you are saying now. Thanks for the pic. It helps a lot. Much appreciated.

It's all about where the mask vents are located. If exhaled air exits far before reaching the HME, it won't work. I believe the AirMini system puts their HumidX before the vent. I cannot tell from the picture where the Bleep vents.

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Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:28 pm

It's all about where the mask vents are located. If exhaled air exits far before reaching the HME, it won't work. I believe the AirMini system puts their HumidX before the vent. I cannot tell from the picture where the Bleep vents.

The Bleep/Eclipse vents at those two little holes surrounded by the little black diffuser holder.

One on either side where the short hose attaches...so at the bottom of the frame.

The HME uses a standard hose connection. If the Bleep uses that style connection where it connects to the short hose, it might work. I'm not sure how the added weight/stiffness at this location would affect adhesion.