AirFit P10 Nasal Mask Safe or not?

So in my research I’ve found the venting system to be of concern with this mask. Various opinions of course but many people agree that moisture in the vents blocks them.

Is the mask still safe to use nightly? Should the vents be cleaned with a dental waterpik/toothbrush daily?

I’ve used the N30 for a while, but discontinued use because of nasal irritation. I’ve read the P10 works great for many people and has a good history. I just want it as my backup mask but maybe full time use if I like it. Love my dreamports but some nights I just want to go to sleep.

I know the head strap wears out and that was likely the issue with my N30. I’m an active sleeper so thought the pillows would hold better. Just a little concerned on the safety of this mask now. My EPR is at 2 and it used to be at 3. Pressure is 6.0-10.0

Provide your research.

It’s from the ApneaBoard a few years back. There’s a long thread on there about it.

So.....apneaboard rants and ramblings are pretty much like rants and ramblings here on this forum....far from scientific "proof" that there is a widespread design failure with anything.

I have never ever ever....had my vent holes get blocked by anything....NEVER.
More people will report like I report.

Outliers are just outliers but they aren't the rule or the law.

Now if you can find real studies by people who really do studies ....then post those studies as documentation.

I use a water pic only when needed--at about the six month mark.
--when I observe loads of dark crud in the mesh.
Any sooner, and I can't feel any difference.
If a water pic is too expensive, use a denture tablet.
They are good for lots of other things.
Apneaboard does not allow contradicting opinions
--even if the poster is full of bull.

That post was nonsense.

The p10 is one of the most popular masks, ever released.

If the p10 was dangerous, where are all the dead bodies?
Has nobody noticed a correlation between all these CPAP wearers not waking up in the morning?
Has nobody noticed they were all using P10s?
Is the CPAP industry covering it up?
Is ResMed covering it up?

That quack who created that experiment, claimed to have shared his conclusions with ResMed, yet they haven't changed their design at all. Do you believe they are knowingly selling dangerous products.

The guy claimed P10s were dangerous, but went to sleep every night wearing it. And all those yahoos on Apnea Board bought the crap he was selling. Including the Apnea Board leaders.

A lot of people believe that when vents become occluded, the risk is the lack of CO2 venting causes us to re-breath CO2, causing hypoxia.

That's not what happens. Occluded vents prevent air from being introduced into the system. You simply cannot introduce more air into the system, if air isn't being released. Within seconds you would not be able to exhale, and you would be awakened, immediately.

BTW:
That poster also posted here. His ramblings were discredited because here you're allowed to disagree.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:36 am

I use a water pic only when needed--at about the six month mark.

and i want to take this opportunity to thank you for mentioning the water pik cleaning on the forum oh so long ago. works a treat.

just be sure you're in the shower when you use it!

OK thank you for the replies. I trust Resmed and I’m sure countless protocols are in place for a mask like this. I currently know someone who has been using it for years without issues.
I think my biggest worry is the rainout/condensation I’ve been experiencing in the winter months. I did just get a hose cover so I’m hoping that will help with the tubing condensation. Does anyone use a cover for the actual p10 mask itself? Would that help limit the moisture from getting into the vent at all?

jlsmithseven wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:21 am

Does anyone use a cover for the actual p10 mask itself? Would that help limit the moisture from getting into the vent at all?

A barrel cozy will help with condensation prevention.

https://www.padacheek.com/product-page/ ... airfit-p10

And yes...back with the P10 was my primary mask I did use the barrel cozy.

jlsmithseven wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:21 am

OK thank you for the replies. I trust Resmed and I’m sure countless protocols are in place for a mask like this. I currently know someone who has been using it for years without issues.
I think my biggest worry is the rainout/condensation I’ve been experiencing in the winter months. I did just get a hose cover so I’m hoping that will help with the tubing condensation. Does anyone use a cover for the actual p10 mask itself? Would that help limit the moisture from getting into the vent at all?

yup, i do. funny thing is, in my situation (started getting rainout then drymouth), i'm back on a non-heated tube with fleece wrap, the short tube with fleece wrap and then the barrel cozy.

took me a bit of time to get used to the cozy as it changes the shape of the pillows slightly, but i finally adjusted.

now, everything will change when spring gets here.

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:09 pm

everything will change when spring gets here

Promise?

lazarus wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:11 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 5:09 pm

everything will change when spring gets here

Promise?

disclaimer: not literally "everything".

jlsmithseven wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:00 am

many people agree that moisture in the vents blocks them.

Only when frozen.