TMJ and mask compatibility

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:54 pm

I looked at the resmed f20 and 30 and the double straps at the temple looked painful.

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:51 pm

When I look at the pictures of the full facemasks, they all seem to have folded straps pressed right at the temples

I used the F30 for two years. I think the pictures are misleading you. There are no "double straps" at your temple in real life.
Yes there are thin straps touching the temples. No, they're not tight nor are they painful.

For any mask you're considering, look for the fitting videos. I know Resmed has its own videos for the mask, I assume other companies do too. I'd start out with the companies' guides. If that doesn't give you a good enough sense, you'll find more videos on YouTube, of course.

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:25 pm

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:05 pm

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:00 pm

As someone who lived with a pellet stove for 15 years I highly recommend putting a kettle on it with water. It puts humidity back in the air.

we have a kettle.

We have two different humidfiers-one in main room and one for bedroom.

We have a well ventilated stove.

What I am earnestly trying to get here is mask suggestions for the stuffy person?

Because the semi stuff I have had for the last week or so MAY or MAY NOT be related to having the regular baseboard heat running. All I know is I do NOT want to struggle like I did last week trying to PAP with air streaming out my mouth every few minutes. I am tired just thinking about it.

If I can get my nose open enough to get the pap machine started the air blowing keeps it open. I keep a small bottle of vicks and when I'm super stuffed I sniff at that to get my nose open enough to breath. I just went through covid (first time officially tested positive) and even then a little bit of vicks and a menthol cough drop got my nose open enough. I keep a full face mask for emergencies but I haven't used it in like 2 years. About time for my hoarding self to get rid of it. Lol

Lol i kinda wanted to hoard one just in case. Just didn’t know which one.

Just got an Olbas (similar to vicks). The big stressors this week have mainly passed. Just wanted to be prepared for dry heat season.

Thanks

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:25 pm

I keep a small bottle of vicks and when I'm super stuffed I sniff at that to get my nose open enough to breath.

A quarter teaspoon of prepared horseradish on the tongue will do the same thing.

As a young teen I fell about 15 or 20 feet off of a rope swing and landed in such a way that I hit my face specifically my jaw. I’ve had braces, root canals, tooth extraction and an implant. I go to the dentist for a simple cleaning, and my jaw hurts for about two weeks. It’s possible that the ligaments have been damaged. I’ve been dealing with the TMJ for a very long time.

I have a severe TMJ disorder caused by a faulty TMJ implant that was recalled by the FDA in 1990. I understand the pain you have after even a "simple" cleaning. Have you considered requesting that the cleaning be broken up into multiple shorter sessions? In other words, the hygienist cleans just the bottom teeth in one appointment. Then you wait for a couple of weeks and go back to do the cleaning on the top teeth. Reducing the amount of time in any one sitting that you have to have your mouth open and somebody messing around in there can reduce the amount of pain and recovery time you have afterward.

Also, applying ice to your jaw and face muscles after dental work can help reduce pain and recovery time.

readingteacher wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:01 pm

As a young teen I fell about 15 or 20 feet off of a rope swing and landed in such a way that I hit my face specifically my jaw. I’ve had braces, root canals, tooth extraction and an implant. I go to the dentist for a simple cleaning, and my jaw hurts for about two weeks. It’s possible that the ligaments have been damaged. I’ve been dealing with the TMJ for a very long time.

I have a severe TMJ disorder caused by a faulty TMJ implant that was recalled by the FDA in 1990. I understand the pain you have after even a "simple" cleaning. Have you considered requesting that the cleaning be broken up into multiple shorter sessions? In other words, the hygienist cleans just the bottom teeth in one appointment. Then you wait for a couple of weeks and go back to do the cleaning on the top teeth. Reducing the amount of time in any one sitting that you have to have your mouth open and somebody messing around in there can reduce the amount of pain and recovery time you have afterward.

Also, applying ice to your jaw and face muscles after dental work can help reduce pain and recovery time.

good suggestion. What I have her do is take a break much more often than one might normally expect. This way I can open and close the jaw and relax the muscles before she gets back to work. I can’t imagine having to go back four times for that.. Lol.

I know part of the problem is that I have had a particularly stressful week. Most of the stress has passed, and I expect things to improve.

I just know with my current mask. I couldn’t stand the mask strap that had the buckle right at the temple.

It’s nice to know someone else understands. I will try ice on it the next time it bothers me whether I have a cleaning or not. Thank you.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:40 am

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:25 pm

I keep a small bottle of vicks and when I'm super stuffed I sniff at that to get my nose open enough to breath.

A quarter teaspoon of prepared horseradish on the tongue will do the same thing.

A cup of coffee w Jamesons going down the wrong wind pipe tonight also did an amazing job of clearing the sinuses on accident. Its my husbands birthday and we went out to dinner.

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:26 am

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:25 pm

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:05 pm

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:00 pm

As someone who lived with a pellet stove for 15 years I highly recommend putting a kettle on it with water. It puts humidity back in the air.

we have a kettle.

We have two different humidfiers-one in main room and one for bedroom.

We have a well ventilated stove.

What I am earnestly trying to get here is mask suggestions for the stuffy person?

Because the semi stuff I have had for the last week or so MAY or MAY NOT be related to having the regular baseboard heat running. All I know is I do NOT want to struggle like I did last week trying to PAP with air streaming out my mouth every few minutes. I am tired just thinking about it.

If I can get my nose open enough to get the pap machine started the air blowing keeps it open. I keep a small bottle of vicks and when I'm super stuffed I sniff at that to get my nose open enough to breath. I just went through covid (first time officially tested positive) and even then a little bit of vicks and a menthol cough drop got my nose open enough. I keep a full face mask for emergencies but I haven't used it in like 2 years. About time for my hoarding self to get rid of it. Lol

Lol i kinda wanted to hoard one just in case. Just didn’t know which one.

Just got an Olbas (similar to vicks). The big stressors this week have mainly passed. Just wanted to be prepared for dry heat season.

Thanks

I have the Dreamwear. I would offer it to you but I have a house full of pets and my husband smokes and I've found that most people don't want stuff that has been in a smokers house. Actually come to think of it I don't think I've seen it since the house fire. It may have been put on the non salvage list. They non salvaged a bunch because even tho the fire was small and confined to the craft room the a/c was on and it spread the smoke through the entire house.

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:13 pm

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:26 am

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:25 pm

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:05 pm

babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:00 pm

As someone who lived with a pellet stove for 15 years I highly recommend putting a kettle on it with water. It puts humidity back in the air.

we have a kettle.

We have two different humidfiers-one in main room and one for bedroom.

We have a well ventilated stove.

What I am earnestly trying to get here is mask suggestions for the stuffy person?

Because the semi stuff I have had for the last week or so MAY or MAY NOT be related to having the regular baseboard heat running. All I know is I do NOT want to struggle like I did last week trying to PAP with air streaming out my mouth every few minutes. I am tired just thinking about it.

If I can get my nose open enough to get the pap machine started the air blowing keeps it open. I keep a small bottle of vicks and when I'm super stuffed I sniff at that to get my nose open enough to breath. I just went through covid (first time officially tested positive) and even then a little bit of vicks and a menthol cough drop got my nose open enough. I keep a full face mask for emergencies but I haven't used it in like 2 years. About time for my hoarding self to get rid of it. Lol

Lol i kinda wanted to hoard one just in case. Just didn’t know which one.

Just got an Olbas (similar to vicks). The big stressors this week have mainly passed. Just wanted to be prepared for dry heat season.

Thanks

I have the Dreamwear. I would offer it to you but I have a house full of pets and my husband smokes and I've found that most people don't want stuff that has been in a smokers house. Actually come to think of it I don't think I've seen it since the house fire. It may have been put on the non salvage list. They non salvaged a bunch because even tho the fire was small and confined to the craft room the a/c was on and it spread the smoke through the entire house.

-eyes wide- Holy Shit! Just glad you’re ok!

I will give a look at that mask. I think the Evora was another one.

I feel like it would be difficult for me to wear a full face mask and I’m realizing very quickly the advantage to clearing up the nose rather than trying to wear a full face mask.

lynninnj wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:05 pm

-eyes wide- Holy Shit! Just glad you’re ok!

I will give a look at that mask. I think the Evora was another one.

I feel like it would be difficult for me to wear a full face mask and I’m realizing very quickly the advantage to clearing up the nose rather than trying to wear a full face mask.

Trying get a ffm to seal when it just doesn't fit my face right was near impossible. Waking up to a mask making farting noises is unpleasant and annoying. Its hard enough to sleep when your sick without adding that kind of stress to the situation.

One of the hardest things about selling this house will be giving up
the established patch of horseradish.
I need to get my garden geek son to move some cuttings to his garden plot.

Sooooo....... can anyone see what is wrong with this picture? https://sleephq.com/public/2fc3c90d-fb3 ... 32e467d158

Last week I took the chip to work to put it in oscar and forgot to put it back in (missing data.) The AHI were mostly decent. I didn't feel horrible every night, just some nights.

Note the pressure and flow limit lines. I know the machine is doing it's job.

BUT.....the really shitty thing is that my mouth keeps popping open and my nose is still partially stuffed. I don't know how much is change to more heat indoors. I don't know if it is walking out in the gorgeous day, or the wet leaves that are really starting to change and fall down right now (mold allergy.) I don't know how much is exposure to some stupid rust remover junk I sprayed in the basement (just a spritz) that was so toxic I should have sprayed it outdoors because it lingered and stunk for days (that was thursday, around missing data day).

During this week I have tried olbas/vicks menthol inhaler, last night some mucinex PM, popped on a new nasal cushion, icepack on my face, taping my mouth shut and STILL I am woken by my mouth popping open with air blasting out. I have been told it sounds like riding with the car window open. My throat/glands are swollen and sore from my mouth hanging open. I took a covid test last night-negative and I have no reason to believe it would be positive because I am a neurotic masker but tested anyway.

The next thing I am going to do is jack up the humidity tonight. I haven't tried yet and really hope it helps.

And so I come back to the notion of getting a new hybrid or ffm. I would really like to go back to the easy breezy sleep I was having prior to this.

Just took a lie down with the humidity up higher. If this pattern holds true I will be quite relieved to maybe get a good nights sleep tonight. https://sleephq.com/public/08979007-4cc ... c0f3ad17ad

Granted I was awake the entire time but I think during those wakeful mouth open nights the charts looked like a heaping pile of dung.

Now I regret not trying the humidity change first but I did try things one at a time until I got there. The Olbas/Vicks inhalers help as well but this is maybe the key.

:::Crossing fingers:::

So I am feeling a bit better this morning including about the charts. https://sleephq.com/public/21b0b650-44d ... 92b515ebfe I slept pretty well. I taped my mouth when I got up around 1 AM (first waking after the evening session started. I woke up again around 630 and found the tape on my mouth had opened up and my throat was sore, and stuck another piece on. Though at this point I am getting up soon so it wasn't critical. I suspect the 530-6 AM big leak session which wasn't a large leak but more than I want to see was when my tape came off.

So it looks like the increased humidity helped greatly.

At this point I don't know if I want to add in a bit more humidity or use a nasal spray or what. I can't help but think the leaves are the aggravating factor because we had the heat on a few weeks ago and it didn't create the kind of chart you see here.

Should I be disturbed by the increase in FLs registering as well? I know the machine is doing its job and like I said I am happy with my sleep last night but the sore throat, though mild, is not something I want to continue to deal with.

I welcome any substantive thoughts or advice.