Why do some people hate full face masks?

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:44 pm

Here, here's a video about jaw motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJh_PZwi9uc

WT??? The video shows the model moving her jaw forward from the at-rest position, not backward. If anything, it contradicts your claim that an FFM can push the mandible backward.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:44 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:44 pm

Here, here's a video about jaw motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJh_PZwi9uc

WT??? The video shows the model moving her jaw forward from the at-rest position, not backward. If anything, it contradicts your claim that an FFM can push the mandible backward.

Maybe you'll accept this, and quit ranting about things you apparently haven't experienced.

A FFM will hold the mandible in the neutral position, if not slightly retruded, while a mask that does not press on the mandible *may* allow the mandible some movement that may further open the airway and allow lower pressure needs".

The *FACT* of the matter is that many people, including myself have experienced lower pressure needs with non-ffm masks,

Instead of trying to deflect the issue with misdirection about about irrelevant things like "When the mouth opens, the mandible moves back slightly." (mind you, with no *evidence* of mouth opening being an issue, in point of fact with MOST FFMs if "the mouth opens" then the mouth is no longer covered by the FFM, and the bottom of the FFM goes into the mouth, and then there's massive leaks.

In the past, you've asked me to (and I quite) "slap [you] down if [you] get out of control", this appears to be one of those situations, even though the specific condition at the time of your request has passed.

At the very *best*, I'd concede that you're being overly pedantic, and it's not helping anyone.

Your argument is changing and still full of holes.

I'm now bored.

Bye.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:05 pm

Your argument is changing and still full of holes.

I'm now bored.

Bye.

And now, Zonker's giraffe is bored.

With one full face mask, I woke up with the bottom of it in my mouth, like a bit on a bridle.
If I am going to play fifty shades, I should get paid--not the other way around!

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:58 pm

With one full face mask, I woke up with the bottom of it in my mouth, like a bit on a bridle.
If I am going to play fifty shades, I should get paid--not the other way around!

Reminds me that we complained as kids when we got spanked. It's not until we are adults that we realize you have to pay good money for the same thing.

I hated the triangle type full face. leked and gave me an infec ted nose bridge.

The Dream Full Face was much better but still not good. (I know it isn't the correct name.)

I have been usin g the Resmed F30 for a year and love it.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:58 pm

With one full face mask, I woke up with the bottom of it in my mouth, like a bit on a bridle.
If I am going to play fifty shades, I should get paid--not the other way around!