Issues with noise from exhaust vents: Resmed S9 + Airfit P10

perfstud07 · Post by **perfstud07** » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:32 pm

Issues with noise from exhaust vents: Resmed S9 + Airfit P10

The noise from the air vents (or possibly opening my mouth) is waking my partner up. Are there alternative masks that I can use?

The range in pressure I use is from 4-14. I use the medium sized nose pillows which have a better fit than the small. I've tried lowering the pressure to 12, but I wake up with heart racing (I need the higher pressure).

Is there a correlation between the noise from airflow coming out the exhaust vents and the pressure? Have others observed this?

I am going to try mouth taping, in case the noise is coming from my mouth.

Anyone have this issue, or have solutions? Thank you.

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New CPAP user and new to forum. I followed the instructions to input my equipment in the user settings, but the S9 doesn't show up.
I've searched Reddit, this forum, and another forum for answers to the above and have not found them. Thank you kindly for your reply

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:49 pm

http://cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t181835/S ... ryone.html
See link above for equipment profile problem.

As someone who used the P10 for several years....it probably has the most silent of all mask venting systems so I vote for the noise your wife hears either coming from open mouth or maybe mask movement causing a leak that is being heard...maybe bouncing off something.

Try taping your mouth and see if the wife complains still yet...also use OSCAR and lets see if anything exciting shows up on the leak graph.

OSCAR https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.ph ... stallation
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.ph ... rpretation

Hopefully your model S9 is one of the full data models and not the brick model.
When you add your machine to your signature line...be sure to put model name as is shown on your machine. There were probably at least a dozen different S9 models.

perfstud07 · Post by **perfstud07** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:00 am

Thank you so much, your response is really helpful and supportive. I downloaded OSCAR but am a bit intimidated. I appreciate all the resources here and will look forward to digging in. My Resmed S9 is H5i, do you know how I can check if it is a brick? I know that my doctor is able to pull data from the SD card.

or maybe mask movement causing a leak that is being heard...maybe bouncing off something.

Are there remedies for this? I've seen some hook set ups you can attach to the bed on Amazon, but I don't think they are available to ship to Thailand.

Also, just as a note, my partner identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns, which is why I used the term 'partner'

I will update the signature as you suggested.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:27 am

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:00 am
o you know how I can check if it is a brick?

Tell us the model name...it's on the machine.

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:00 am
Also, just as a note, my partner identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns, which is why I used the term 'partner'

Sorry, had no way to know...I am female, married and I still refer to my husband as "my partner"...
I meant no harm and had no way to know your personal stuff....nor do I really need to know.

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:52 am

Pressure range is 4/14…Autoset

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:59 am

LSAT wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:52 am
Pressure range is 4/14…Autoset

Might also be ramp starting at 4 and going up to fixed at 14 with the brick.
4 to 14 might not equal AutoSet. How many times have people thought that ramp pressures were part of the settings?

Might also be the S9 Escape Auto....it will auto adjust but has no data available.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:41 am

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:00 am
My Resmed S9 is H5i,

No, that's the model of the humidifier. (All S9 humidifiers are the H5I)

GrumpyHere · Post by **GrumpyHere** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:17 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:16 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:15 pm

Slartybartfast wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:12 pm
How do you tell from the label whether you're looking at an S9 Autoset, or an Elite, or an Escape? I recall there was a difference in the model numbers, but there is no model number on the label of either the machine in question, or my current machine.
By the REF number:

36001 S9 "Escape" (CPAP Only no data)
36002 S9 "Escape Auto" (No data apap mode)
36003 S9 "Elite" (cpap only)
36004 S9 "VPAP S"
36005 S9 "AutoSet" (advanced autoset mode)
36006 S9 "VPAP Auto"
36007 S9 "VPAP Adapt" (older)
36008 S9 "VPAP ST" (older)
36009 S9 "VPAP ST-A" (older)
36034 S9 "VPAP COPD"
36037 S9 "VPAP Adapt"
36038 S9 "VPAP ST"
36039 S9 "VPAP ST-A"
36048 S9 "Lumis Tx"
36050 S9 "VPAP Tx"
36065 S9 "AutoSet" 'for her' Pink
Also, name's on top, by the power button. though it won't tell you which of the ST-A or Adapt models you have.

perfstud07 · Post by **perfstud07** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:00 am

Hello Everyone,

Thank you for your replies

The ramp starts at 4, set by my doctor

The model is 36005 A

I am looking at my Oscar data and at the links provided by other users in this thread to interpret the data. At a top level the average AHI is 3.15 which seems good.

RE: The OP: After I started taping my mouth shut, and using a tempurpedic pillow that keeps me on my back, my partner has not noted any noise.

Thank you to everyone. It's been 8 months of getting to this solution, and the solution itself has lots of bumps to smooth over.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:19 am

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:00 am
average AHI is 3.15 which seems good.

If you don't mind breathing problems waking you up at least every 20 minutes (probably more often).

perfstud07 · Post by **perfstud07** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm

@palerider my understanding is that this is a community intended for education and mutual uplift. I am a newbie and I had thought that below 5 is acceptable. What is a number that, in your opinion, I should strive for? What additional steps should I take that I haven't already?

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:00 am

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm
mutual uplift.

You're thinking of apneaboard.
This is a community of *facts* if you don't want to hear about the facts, that's entirely up to you.

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm

I am a newbie and I had thought that below 5 is acceptable.

That's what doctors consider "good enough" but it's far from good, take 60, divide it by 5 (ahi of 5) you get 12. that's how often, *on average* that your sleep is disturbed by breathing problems.. (probably more often because the AHI only counts two of the four common breathing issues, snoring and flow limitations also disturb sleep and reduce rest).

How often do you want to have someone poking you with a sharp stick all night long?

Here, we like to see AHI's under 2. Mine was 0.3 last time I checked.

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm
What is a number that, in your opinion, I should strive for? What additional steps should I take that I haven't already?

Anything below 1 is pretty much diminishing returns.

ILoveFlowers · Post by **ILoveFlowers** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:43 am

My pressures are not very high but I do get some noise from the P10 exhaust vents if anything gets close to it, i.e., the blanket or a pillow gets pulled up near the exhaust vents. The air seems to ricochet off things and make noise/blow in my eyes.

perfstud07 · Post by **perfstud07** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:34 am

Hello, thank you for taking the time to add context to your previous one liner post. Do you also have suggestions for how to bring my ahi down? I did some reading and apparently CA isn't really impacted by increasing pressure.

palerider wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:00 am

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm
mutual uplift.
You're thinking of apneaboard.
This is a community of *facts* if you don't want to hear about the facts, that's entirely up to you.

perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm

I am a newbie and I had thought that below 5 is acceptable.
That's what doctors consider "good enough" but it's far from good, take 60, divide it by 5 (ahi of 5) you get 12. that's how often, *on average* that your sleep is disturbed by breathing problems.. (probably more often because the AHI only counts two of the four common breathing issues, snoring and flow limitations also disturb sleep and reduce rest).

How often do you want to have someone poking you with a sharp stick all night long?

Here, we like to see AHI's under 2. Mine was 0.3 last time I checked.
perfstud07 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:29 pm
What is a number that, in your opinion, I should strive for? What additional steps should I take that I haven't already?
Anything below 1 is pretty much diminishing returns.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:33 am

More pressure won't help reduce central apneas.

It's normal to have a few centrals so we don't worry about a few here and there.
If you are having a lot of awake/arousal related centrals then we would advise trying to figure out what is causing the arousal and fix that.
Bear in mind that while the videos below talk mainly about central apneas and arousal false positive flagging...it can happen with any category of event.
http://freecpapadvice.com/sleepyhead-free-software

So to fix a problem you first have to identify the problem.

My AHI ranges from 1 to 3 most nights. Occasionally I get lucky and it's below 1.0.....but I have a lot of false positives being flagged because I often have "bad" nights in terms of sleep quality from pain issues. Totally unrelated to airway issues.
75 % of my AHI is always false positives and one time it was 95% false positives.
I have seen false positive flagging in the OA and hyponea category....I know it can happen.

Asleep time flow rate is circled in red...anything flagged after the red circle is a false positive.. I wasn't asleep and if I wasn't asleep it doesn't count. More pressure won't fix any of it.

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