How do I stop rebound rem after recently starting bipap for the first time?

I have severe obstructive sleep apnea. I stopped breathing 103 times per hour at sleep study. I just picked my first bipap up last Thursday. I'm very knew to this treatment. I didn't sleep at all with it the first night just used oxygen. I have diastolic heart failure, a male age 36. Ever since I have had rebound rem and crazy realistic disturbing lucid dreams within in minutes of falling asleep and I'm aware during the dreams and wake up an hour and a half to 2 hours later. I've done research on rebound rem with cpap treatment but it doesn't say how to stop it with cpap treatment or bipap. My question is how do I treat this? I'm on no medicine that has caused lucid dreaming. In fact I got zero rem during sleep study and no lucid dreams before I started bipap. I talked to my doctors nurse today on the phone and all they told me was to continue using it. I know it works cuz the app I have on my phone that connects to my machine says I have been only having one apnic event per hour. Does this go away? How do I know if it goes away when i wake up after 2 hours. And I'm wide awake? I have the resmed10 air curve

for those playing along at home-

http://cpaptalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t ... 3#p1384913

it would still be a good idea for you to download the software as pugsy mentioned in your other thread.

without the data that the oscar software provides, the experts would just be guessing.

and you wouldn't want that, would you?

Congratulations on successful treatment of your severe apnea.

Having more REM sleep than normal after being low on REM sleep (rebound) is certainly a thing, and some people have "lucid dreaming" as part of the package. I don't think anyone can tell you how long this will last. But I'm curious: why do you want to stop it? Your body apparently needs to catch up on REM (and probably deep sleep too). So isn't it a good thing that that's happening?

scooterinnc84 wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 6:12 pm

I just picked my first bipap up last Thursday. I'm very knew to this treatment.

REM Rebound cannot be diagnosed by the patient. It has to be done with EEG leads and a reading of the sleep stages.

Dreams happen in all stages of sleep. In order to remember dreams, especially vivid ones, the patient has to have arousals from sleep. The patient may fall back to sleep so quickly that he doesn't remember many of the arousals.

Prior to your use of CPAP, you might have been REM-deprived and could expect REM rebound with the commencement of CPAP. However, the first thing to be approached is the effectiveness of your CPAP therapy. It's common for this therapy to need some tweaking when first starting out. Without tweaking the patient may be having many arousals due to breathing events. Also, the newness of using CPAP may cause awakenings.

My advice is to forget REM rebound for the time being and concentrate on making sure the CPAP therapy is optimized and you are sleeping without excess arousals. The effective way to do this is to use OSCAR to evaluate your CPAP therapy.

Please at least look at your machine display and tell us what your AHI and leak level are for the most recent night. We also need to know which drugs and supplements you are using.

Please stick to this one thread. It makes it easier for those helping you to see all the history.

Ahi is 5 and leak level I scored 20 pts it was a 6. 6/20 That's what the my air app on my phone calculated.

scooterinnc84 wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 6:12 pm

I have diastolic heart failure, a male age 36.

Re: Why am I going into lucid dreaming right away for an hour and a half

Post by scooterinnc84 » Wed May 26, 2021 8:21 am
I'm not on any drugs or supplements.

How are you managing that?

I don't understand that website

scooterinnc84 wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 10:04 pm

I don't understand that website

what website?