MyAir is really useless isn't it

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:35 am

tisket wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:13 am

Yes, I am using AirSense 10 now, and I really miss using the PR System 1, which would show me large leak % on the machine interface itself. AirSense 10 display, and MyAir, do not give this information.

You must not know how to access the AirSense 10 reports on the display. It shows 95% leak level. I make a quick check each morning upon arising. Mine is almost always zero. If it is a high number, you might need OSCAR to dig into what went wrong.

If you don't know how to access the clinical menu and reports, ask here.

Just went through the entire clinical menu again and saw no such reports option, so I'm asking.

Janknitz wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:18 pm

I will tell you that if you saw large leaks on the PRS1 screen they were HUGE leaks because the PRS1 only reported 7 or 30 day averages. That information is mostly useless on a day to day basis.

It used to be 0% all the time, when it went to 1% I would take out the SD card, go into the other room, put it in the computer, run Sleepyhead, and see what was up.

And only giant, persistent leaks even register on that machine. You might have other leaks that will never trigger the Large Leak on the PRS1 screen.

OK, never heard anyone say that before, that's interesting.

But you can get into the clinical menu on your ResMed and see what your leak rate was over the course of just one night (or a week, month, three months, or six months). You don't need My Air or even Oscar or Sleepyhead for that.

I just went into the clinical menu again and saw no such information. I am really puzzled where you guys are seeing it. All I can see is "53 l/m" on the "Sleep Report" which is not in the clinical menu. I am not even sure what that number means exactly. Is that a max? An average? Nowhere does it show the percent of the night in large leak.

If you do use Oscar or Sleepyhead, you can get detailed, minute by minute reports from either machine.

Yes I know. I have used both many times. It's a lot easier if I can just check the machine.

tisket wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:45 pm

I just went into the clinical menu again and saw no such information. I am really puzzled where you guys are seeing it. All I can see is "53 l/m" on the "Sleep Report" which is not in the clinical menu. I am not even sure what that number means exactly. Is that a max? An average? Nowhere does it show the percent of the night in large leak.

The only leak number available on the ResMed LCD screen on the AirSense/AirCurve machines' sleep report is the 95% leak number.
By definition a 95% number (be it leak or pressure) just means you were AT OR BELOW that number for 95% of the night. The or below part of the definition is critical...
The other 5 % of the night we don't know where it went to. Must use the available software to see any details.

A high 95% leak number doesn't mean the entire night was in the toilet in terms of leak management though.
Here's a good example in this thread where I had a high 95% number but if you look at the actual details...the bulk of the night wasn't anywhere near large leak.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=108724&p=1036669&hi ... t#p1036669

In general if the 95% leak number is under 30 L/min....chances are that there isn't very much in terms of large leak ....remember AT OR BELOW.

Anyone that really wants any details though....you have to use the available software.

BTW....the leak numbers that MyAir report...same 95% numbers.

tisket wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:40 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:35 am

tisket wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:13 am

Yes, I am using AirSense 10 now, and I really miss using the PR System 1, which would show me large leak % on the machine interface itself. AirSense 10 display, and MyAir, do not give this information.

You must not know how to access the AirSense 10 reports on the display. It shows 95% leak level. I make a quick check each morning upon arising. Mine is almost always zero. If it is a high number, you might need OSCAR to dig into what went wrong.

If you don't know how to access the clinical menu and reports, ask here.

Just went through the entire clinical menu again and saw no such reports option, so I'm asking.

If you go into the Clinical Menu, look for "essentials" and change it to plus. That will open up the data on your screens Sleep Report.

Thanks Pugsy. So what you guys are calling a percentage, is just labeled "Leak" on the machine and is shown as l/min. I kept looking for a percent in large leak like the PR S1 has, but it appears ResMed does not show this, other than the frowny face if that hidden number is 30% or more. I was looking for the number itself but it appears only Oscar will show that for ResMed.

And yeah I understand your point about 95% of the time was at that value or below. Unfortunately in my case, my large leak % has ranged from 8% (the good night) to 51% in the past week, according to Oscar, so it's as bad as it sounds.

I am curious if someone can sleep through having their mouth open/tongue relaxed and the full blast of air rushing out. I have taped quite a bit but part of me still has a hard time believing I could sleep through that. When I try it when I'm awake I can barely stand it for a few seconds.

LSAT wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:21 pm

tisket wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:40 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:35 am

tisket wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:13 am

Yes, I am using AirSense 10 now, and I really miss using the PR System 1, which would show me large leak % on the machine interface itself. AirSense 10 display, and MyAir, do not give this information.

You must not know how to access the AirSense 10 reports on the display. It shows 95% leak level. I make a quick check each morning upon arising. Mine is almost always zero. If it is a high number, you might need OSCAR to dig into what went wrong.

If you don't know how to access the clinical menu and reports, ask here.

Just went through the entire clinical menu again and saw no such reports option, so I'm asking.

If you go into the Clinical Menu, look for "essentials" and change it to plus. That will open up the data on your screens Sleep Report.

Thanks, I did that the day I got the machine. The information on percentage of the night spent in large leak is not in the ResMed report, it appears, just that "95%" number.

Phew managed to get 0.01% large leak time last night using the Aloha mask and taping with the 2" paper tape. Still woke up exhausted but I suspect I am very behind in getting good sleep.

Tons of leaks but they were not over 24 l/m.

2.08 AHI. Almost all were clear airway events. Obstructive score was only 0.26.

All this from Oscar of course.

If you are taping your mouth shut and the tape isn't coming loose and still seeing a lot of leaks ....that leaves mask movement as the culprit.

Just because a leak doesn't hit large leak territory doesn't mean it can't disturb sleep in some fashion.
Do you remember many awakenings? How many hours of sleep last night?

Don't remember any awakenings and slept about 7:40.

Without full taping it's more like 22% large leak and up. Even with full taping the AirFit P30i gave me 28% large leaks so am I returning it. The Aloha is the only one that seems able to get me to close to 0 large leaks. Didn't use to require taping but now it seems it does.

It would be a real luxury if I could only worry about small leaks.

tisket wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:04 am

Obviously MyAir is useless.

If you NEED MyAir to tell you you're leaking, there is not a thing I can do for you.