Linda,
I personally do not feel that posting things that make people cry and hurts them further as some of the posts on here have done is "healthy."
But then I am the one crying and not you so I guess it is fine.
natural and alternative treatments for sleep disorders
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deebatt,
I am glad the link worked for you..haha..well, I never had that happen even when I doubled them up.
I wonder what the effect is of being exposed to all these high electro magnetic field in the course of your life. I do know putting the wrong pole against the skin can cause one to get worse (one puts north against the skin).
They had found some initial positive results in using extremely, powerful magnets on certain areas of the head (usually over the limbic node) in trying to ease depression but I personally would be afraid to use magnets on my head (except for a few minutes) without medical assistance.
But for me personally, they take away my back and neck pain or should I go to a fair or something and do a lot of walking and have very sore feet or legs, I apply them and by the next day I am very muych improved which does not happen when I don't use them..then I still hurt the next day.
I am glad the link worked for you..haha..well, I never had that happen even when I doubled them up.
I wonder what the effect is of being exposed to all these high electro magnetic field in the course of your life. I do know putting the wrong pole against the skin can cause one to get worse (one puts north against the skin).
They had found some initial positive results in using extremely, powerful magnets on certain areas of the head (usually over the limbic node) in trying to ease depression but I personally would be afraid to use magnets on my head (except for a few minutes) without medical assistance.
But for me personally, they take away my back and neck pain or should I go to a fair or something and do a lot of walking and have very sore feet or legs, I apply them and by the next day I am very muych improved which does not happen when I don't use them..then I still hurt the next day.
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Jane,
It's one thing to seek help on these boards. However, your posts have been so lengthy and disturbing, it's hard for anyone to jump in and help. You have way too many issues going on at once it seems and Cpap compliance may be the least of them. It is not my intent to be mean but Jane, come on. These posts from you are getting out of hand. You spent no less than 3 paragraphs detailing problems with your family arising at a funeral. How on earth can someone follow these threads in hopes of offering some advice?
The other problem that is irritating many people is that you posted the same topic on several threads. Instead of waiting for one to be answered, you started another. And then another! It stated you had to hurry, hurry, hurry as you had to mail a letter to your doctor THAT evening. Come on..what was the urgency? Pick up the phone, call the doctor and say "please wait to receive my letter before you decide on the next course of treatment. It's very important" Or if it's that much of a rush, drive it over or fax it to her.
It was just crazy bopping all over trying to see what other info you were looking for and it was the same thing!
My suggestion and ONLY a suggestion would be to limit your posts to 3 paragraphs and make you question/thoughts/ideas clear and concise or you will quickly lose this crowd. Everyone here truly is wonderful in their own different ways and are always willing to help but it's hard to respond to your often lengthy and sometimes rambling posts.
Best of luck in all your treatments.
It's one thing to seek help on these boards. However, your posts have been so lengthy and disturbing, it's hard for anyone to jump in and help. You have way too many issues going on at once it seems and Cpap compliance may be the least of them. It is not my intent to be mean but Jane, come on. These posts from you are getting out of hand. You spent no less than 3 paragraphs detailing problems with your family arising at a funeral. How on earth can someone follow these threads in hopes of offering some advice?
The other problem that is irritating many people is that you posted the same topic on several threads. Instead of waiting for one to be answered, you started another. And then another! It stated you had to hurry, hurry, hurry as you had to mail a letter to your doctor THAT evening. Come on..what was the urgency? Pick up the phone, call the doctor and say "please wait to receive my letter before you decide on the next course of treatment. It's very important" Or if it's that much of a rush, drive it over or fax it to her.
It was just crazy bopping all over trying to see what other info you were looking for and it was the same thing!
My suggestion and ONLY a suggestion would be to limit your posts to 3 paragraphs and make you question/thoughts/ideas clear and concise or you will quickly lose this crowd. Everyone here truly is wonderful in their own different ways and are always willing to help but it's hard to respond to your often lengthy and sometimes rambling posts.
Best of luck in all your treatments.
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what I find interesting is that after people bash me, they then end with good luck and I hope you find the answers.
I am tired of sticking up for myself if all you guys are going to do is continue to be rude.
I will not apologize for being myself..I like the person I am and I am not a concise person by nature and I will not be someone other then who I am to please you.
Nor do I feel the need to do things and handle things in your way, bookworm.
People are responding and I feel the best thing I can do to stop letting you people continue to upset me is either not read a post if it is mean or rude or critical as yours was or attempt not to respond in the hopes o getting this thread back on track, but I find these options very difficult personally.
Can people who wish to attack me and the topic, leave this thread alone and just move elsewhere not analyzing every move I make or telling me how awful and disturbing I am.
Look, I was very depressed recently and fast nearing the edge of my rope, I am begging you people to stop bashing me and pushing me further down when I am down already and ignore the fact that I posted three similar threads in trying to complete a letter.
I said one thread was posted in error and I see no way to delete it. With the thousands of threads on here, why do you guys not go there and stop messing up my day and making me feel worse? Do you feel that what comes around goes around only applies if it is done to others in the light of day and not anonymously.
Please can everyone leave if they are not interested in the topic of posting and sharing things you learned as far as alternative and natural aids for sleep disorders.
If you disbelieve and think everyone who uses and believes in alternative treatments is a nut, can you keep your opinion to yourselves and go to a thread where things you believe in are discussed.
Can you stop counting my threads, analyzing what I ask, criticizing what and how I ask it, becoming furious if I use too many words or hijacked too many threads with my stupid desire to try to not feel like crap after 25 years of it.
Can you please stop being so mean and then justifying it?
Please...stop...I just am not strong enough at this pointing my life to keep defending myself against attack and cruelty. I am doing the best I can. Can you stop criticizing me for mentioning a had a high IQ and remember that smart peope are people with all the feelings of anyone else.
I treat all people I meet with kindness and never start things with people unless they are rude to me first. I care about the sufferings of others and often give of my time and despite my poverrty.
I have in real life been told by hundereds of people I am nice or kind or have a heart of gold. While I don't expect you to believe someone you obviously think lies and exaggerastes, there is nothing I can do except ask God to show you someday that I rarely lie and have not lied about anything I have said on here. I have a hard time identifying with people who are cruel or rude to people with problems as my heart feels for them. If your's doesn't as is so apparent, please can you drop your need to say something mean and go to a thread where you have no contact with someone you distain.
Can you forgive me if I have offended you by saying too much, defending myself or my views, asking too much or too many question that ar similar, doing one or two threads too many, repeating myself, not having the prescribed ratio of asking to informing, not being open-minded enough for you, the ability to learn anything,, closed to advise, knowing it all, and all the other things you feel about me and just stop...please.
I am a sincere person trying to share what I know and seek help so that I can not be depressed and emotional all the time and sick and improve my life and health as I have a lot to give and I want to get better in order to fulfill my purpose which is to help others, be empathetic, be a good parent, seek a way to use my gifts and do better in my life.
If I am irritating to you, can you be the bigger person and stop telling me so and just move on to another thread. Why this need to do this to someone who is in such a vulnerable stage in her life that she wishes she had not been born, who just found out her treatment for 15 years was wrong and that is why she feels so crappy despite compliance with doctors, who has suffered continual rejection in life and littel support and yet cares for others, who has a dying mom who seems to do nothing but criticize and hates her and shows no attempt to want to reconcile while the little time remains and one who is hoping someway to fix the relationship as time runs out...I am not in a good mental health state right now, considering suicide only two weeks ago and crying profusely now at the continual assaults I am getting on here.
Can you not come back here and say how disturbed I am, and how I need more help than you can give and either be supportive or go unto another thread and bash someone less vulnerable.
If there is any humanity in the people attacking me, etc left, I am begging you to please stop...please stop.
I am tired of sticking up for myself if all you guys are going to do is continue to be rude.
I will not apologize for being myself..I like the person I am and I am not a concise person by nature and I will not be someone other then who I am to please you.
Nor do I feel the need to do things and handle things in your way, bookworm.
People are responding and I feel the best thing I can do to stop letting you people continue to upset me is either not read a post if it is mean or rude or critical as yours was or attempt not to respond in the hopes o getting this thread back on track, but I find these options very difficult personally.
Can people who wish to attack me and the topic, leave this thread alone and just move elsewhere not analyzing every move I make or telling me how awful and disturbing I am.
Look, I was very depressed recently and fast nearing the edge of my rope, I am begging you people to stop bashing me and pushing me further down when I am down already and ignore the fact that I posted three similar threads in trying to complete a letter.
I said one thread was posted in error and I see no way to delete it. With the thousands of threads on here, why do you guys not go there and stop messing up my day and making me feel worse? Do you feel that what comes around goes around only applies if it is done to others in the light of day and not anonymously.
Please can everyone leave if they are not interested in the topic of posting and sharing things you learned as far as alternative and natural aids for sleep disorders.
If you disbelieve and think everyone who uses and believes in alternative treatments is a nut, can you keep your opinion to yourselves and go to a thread where things you believe in are discussed.
Can you stop counting my threads, analyzing what I ask, criticizing what and how I ask it, becoming furious if I use too many words or hijacked too many threads with my stupid desire to try to not feel like crap after 25 years of it.
Can you please stop being so mean and then justifying it?
Please...stop...I just am not strong enough at this pointing my life to keep defending myself against attack and cruelty. I am doing the best I can. Can you stop criticizing me for mentioning a had a high IQ and remember that smart peope are people with all the feelings of anyone else.
I treat all people I meet with kindness and never start things with people unless they are rude to me first. I care about the sufferings of others and often give of my time and despite my poverrty.
I have in real life been told by hundereds of people I am nice or kind or have a heart of gold. While I don't expect you to believe someone you obviously think lies and exaggerastes, there is nothing I can do except ask God to show you someday that I rarely lie and have not lied about anything I have said on here. I have a hard time identifying with people who are cruel or rude to people with problems as my heart feels for them. If your's doesn't as is so apparent, please can you drop your need to say something mean and go to a thread where you have no contact with someone you distain.
Can you forgive me if I have offended you by saying too much, defending myself or my views, asking too much or too many question that ar similar, doing one or two threads too many, repeating myself, not having the prescribed ratio of asking to informing, not being open-minded enough for you, the ability to learn anything,, closed to advise, knowing it all, and all the other things you feel about me and just stop...please.
I am a sincere person trying to share what I know and seek help so that I can not be depressed and emotional all the time and sick and improve my life and health as I have a lot to give and I want to get better in order to fulfill my purpose which is to help others, be empathetic, be a good parent, seek a way to use my gifts and do better in my life.
If I am irritating to you, can you be the bigger person and stop telling me so and just move on to another thread. Why this need to do this to someone who is in such a vulnerable stage in her life that she wishes she had not been born, who just found out her treatment for 15 years was wrong and that is why she feels so crappy despite compliance with doctors, who has suffered continual rejection in life and littel support and yet cares for others, who has a dying mom who seems to do nothing but criticize and hates her and shows no attempt to want to reconcile while the little time remains and one who is hoping someway to fix the relationship as time runs out...I am not in a good mental health state right now, considering suicide only two weeks ago and crying profusely now at the continual assaults I am getting on here.
Can you not come back here and say how disturbed I am, and how I need more help than you can give and either be supportive or go unto another thread and bash someone less vulnerable.
If there is any humanity in the people attacking me, etc left, I am begging you to please stop...please stop.
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Sj - I PM'd you to avoid problems, not create them.
You are not listening to anything anyone is saying to you and continue charging your windmills.
I am no shrink or therapist, but I do know a person who needs immediate help when I see one.
Evidently all of your magic herbs and natural products are not working at all.
You need to stop being a victim or playing one.
Your intellect is working against you in a major way.
Someone please help this person better than I can.
tomjax
You are not listening to anything anyone is saying to you and continue charging your windmills.
I am no shrink or therapist, but I do know a person who needs immediate help when I see one.
Evidently all of your magic herbs and natural products are not working at all.
You need to stop being a victim or playing one.
Your intellect is working against you in a major way.
Someone please help this person better than I can.
tomjax
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Sleepyjane, I believe you realize there are a number of people here who do empathize with you, and who do feel your pain. I hope you can disregard the others who are less empathetic. Apparently, they've either never known great pain or they've forgotten what it felt like.
It's rather unusual for this board, actually, because so many here faced long struggles themselves, often at their wits end from years of suffering. But, take heart from those who can relate. Focus on their words. Those are the ones which are important. The others are of little consequence.
Regards,
Bill
It's rather unusual for this board, actually, because so many here faced long struggles themselves, often at their wits end from years of suffering. But, take heart from those who can relate. Focus on their words. Those are the ones which are important. The others are of little consequence.
Regards,
Bill
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dear Bill,
Thank you so much for what you said.
I have only been on here a few weeks and on my initial post--when I was feeling quite desperate, people were helping and quite nice and said that there are nice people on here who understand.
Contrary to what tomjax just posted I have listened a lot to people on here giving actual advice and support and carried these changes to my doctor and I feel great hope now of resolving at least the sleep apnea end of it. The PLMD and delayed phase sleep syndrome, I am still continuing to seek answers on. But it has been a long time since I have felt motivated and hopeful and even though it isn't tons of it, I am feeling change is just around the corner and some improvement in motivation.
I directly give credit for the hope that the chance that I think will come and improve my apnea, in large part is due to the suggestions I have gotten on here and being proactive about my care.
I am also still totally open to people sharing their advice for alternative methods of resolving PLMD which I just was diagnosed with and am afraid to take the drugs for personal reasons and the nightowl problem which doctor never offered any advise on and which is drastically affecting my life as it is so extreme. I will certainly research and incorporate those I can and that I think might help and that I can afford.
I appreciate your words of wisdom, Bill, and I will try to do what you said though it is hard not to respond when attacked and demeaned.
Obviously some people are going to continue to seek to demean and diminish me with their comments. Not only have they forgotten suffering, but forgotten that what comes around usually goes around.
I have noticed in my own life, God has a way of making one experience what others have gone through to better understand how they were feeling, but I would not wish that on my worse enemy even if they hurt me as it has been so hard and I don't like seeing people in pain even if they don't care if they hurt others. Too empathetic I guess.
Bless you, bill. I am hopeful of hearing from some of the compassionate, understanding people on here,..and I thank you for responding.
Thank you so much for what you said.
I have only been on here a few weeks and on my initial post--when I was feeling quite desperate, people were helping and quite nice and said that there are nice people on here who understand.
Contrary to what tomjax just posted I have listened a lot to people on here giving actual advice and support and carried these changes to my doctor and I feel great hope now of resolving at least the sleep apnea end of it. The PLMD and delayed phase sleep syndrome, I am still continuing to seek answers on. But it has been a long time since I have felt motivated and hopeful and even though it isn't tons of it, I am feeling change is just around the corner and some improvement in motivation.
I directly give credit for the hope that the chance that I think will come and improve my apnea, in large part is due to the suggestions I have gotten on here and being proactive about my care.
I am also still totally open to people sharing their advice for alternative methods of resolving PLMD which I just was diagnosed with and am afraid to take the drugs for personal reasons and the nightowl problem which doctor never offered any advise on and which is drastically affecting my life as it is so extreme. I will certainly research and incorporate those I can and that I think might help and that I can afford.
I appreciate your words of wisdom, Bill, and I will try to do what you said though it is hard not to respond when attacked and demeaned.
Obviously some people are going to continue to seek to demean and diminish me with their comments. Not only have they forgotten suffering, but forgotten that what comes around usually goes around.
I have noticed in my own life, God has a way of making one experience what others have gone through to better understand how they were feeling, but I would not wish that on my worse enemy even if they hurt me as it has been so hard and I don't like seeing people in pain even if they don't care if they hurt others. Too empathetic I guess.
Bless you, bill. I am hopeful of hearing from some of the compassionate, understanding people on here,..and I thank you for responding.
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nhe
NHE,
I am not that much of a therapist, but I do question your advice for SJ to seek out those who can enable her and ignore those who are trying to help.
And I will match pain with most here.
But I try to limit pain intentionally inflicted on myself.
tomjax
I am not that much of a therapist, but I do question your advice for SJ to seek out those who can enable her and ignore those who are trying to help.
And I will match pain with most here.
But I try to limit pain intentionally inflicted on myself.
tomjax
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Re: nhe
LOL. Well, it's not the first time you've questioned my advice, tomjax, and I suspect it won't be the last. To be honest, I'm not even sure I offered advice. As I've said before; I just write what I think, what I believe, and what I feel. Have a great day, Tom.tomjax wrote:NHE,
I am not that much of a therapist, but I do question your advice for SJ to seek out those who can enable her and ignore those who are trying to help.
Regards,
Bill
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someone mentioned in another thread how their sister decided to start walking and walked 10 steps further each day and went from 340 lbs to about 125 pounds and in the process lost sleep apnea, high blood pressure, diabetes, and high cholesterol.
So I thought I'd mention her inspiring story on this thread that shows how things we do to get healthier can make a true difference in our lives. Each day we are doing things that either make us worse or improve us. Any improvement in what we do from stopping drinking pop, eating more veggies and live foods, thinking more positively, etc is a step in the right direction..
I also thought it might be helpful to share the advice of a man who had an underground clinic 20 years and healed many dying patients who doctors gave up on and who were dying and recovered with his extreme comprehensive alternative health methods. Learn more about him at herboc.com or on curezone.com by putting his name in the search.
Here is some advice for him on a healthier life. he says those who do cleansing of different elimination organs once a season never or rarely get sick
DR. RICHARD SCHULZE'S 20 STEPS TO A HEALTHIER LIFE...
1. PURE WATER (1 QT. OF PURE WATER EVERY DAY)
2. PURE FRESH JUICE 1 QT. EVERYDAY (BUY A JUICER)
3. STOP EATING ALL ANIMALS AND ANIMAL BY-PRODUCTS
4. EAT MORE LIVE, RAW FOODS
5. ELIMINATION (INTESTINAL DETOXIFICATION PROGRAM)see herbdoc.com
6. 5 DAY CLEANSING AND DETOXIFICATION PROGRAM see herbdoc.com
7. START WALKING, AND BREATHE MORE
8. MOVE MORE, SWEAT (EVERY DAY FOR 1 HOUR)
9. HOT AND COLD HYDROTHERAPY see incurable program..Google patient handbook and Richard Schulze to see the incurables program and about hydrotherapy and other things)
10. WEAR COTTON AND OTHER NATURAL FIBERS
11. USE ALL NATURAL SOAP, SHAMPOO, DETERGENT, TOOTHPASTE
12. STOP WATCHING TELEVISION, ESPECIALLY THE NEWS
13. THROW AWAY, GIVE AWAY 1/3 OF WHAT YOU OWN
14. START LOVING YOURSELF AND YOUR LIFE (POSITIVE AFFIRMATIONS)
15. EXPRESS YOURSELF
16. HELP SOMEONE EVERYDAY
17. LEARN 1,000 JOKES AND LAUGH
18. HAVE MORE SEX
19. MEDITATE, FOLLOW YOUR SPIRIT, PRAY
20. LOVE, LOVE, AND LOVE MORE!!
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So I thought I'd mention her inspiring story on this thread that shows how things we do to get healthier can make a true difference in our lives. Each day we are doing things that either make us worse or improve us. Any improvement in what we do from stopping drinking pop, eating more veggies and live foods, thinking more positively, etc is a step in the right direction..
I also thought it might be helpful to share the advice of a man who had an underground clinic 20 years and healed many dying patients who doctors gave up on and who were dying and recovered with his extreme comprehensive alternative health methods. Learn more about him at herboc.com or on curezone.com by putting his name in the search.
Here is some advice for him on a healthier life. he says those who do cleansing of different elimination organs once a season never or rarely get sick
DR. RICHARD SCHULZE'S 20 STEPS TO A HEALTHIER LIFE...
1. PURE WATER (1 QT. OF PURE WATER EVERY DAY)
2. PURE FRESH JUICE 1 QT. EVERYDAY (BUY A JUICER)
3. STOP EATING ALL ANIMALS AND ANIMAL BY-PRODUCTS
4. EAT MORE LIVE, RAW FOODS
5. ELIMINATION (INTESTINAL DETOXIFICATION PROGRAM)see herbdoc.com
6. 5 DAY CLEANSING AND DETOXIFICATION PROGRAM see herbdoc.com
7. START WALKING, AND BREATHE MORE
8. MOVE MORE, SWEAT (EVERY DAY FOR 1 HOUR)
9. HOT AND COLD HYDROTHERAPY see incurable program..Google patient handbook and Richard Schulze to see the incurables program and about hydrotherapy and other things)
10. WEAR COTTON AND OTHER NATURAL FIBERS
11. USE ALL NATURAL SOAP, SHAMPOO, DETERGENT, TOOTHPASTE
12. STOP WATCHING TELEVISION, ESPECIALLY THE NEWS
13. THROW AWAY, GIVE AWAY 1/3 OF WHAT YOU OWN
14. START LOVING YOURSELF AND YOUR LIFE (POSITIVE AFFIRMATIONS)
15. EXPRESS YOURSELF
16. HELP SOMEONE EVERYDAY
17. LEARN 1,000 JOKES AND LAUGH
18. HAVE MORE SEX
19. MEDITATE, FOLLOW YOUR SPIRIT, PRAY
20. LOVE, LOVE, AND LOVE MORE!!
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Why is everything you post SJ so damn long? Yeah I'd be in that blunt category Linda posted about.
Damn woman, write a book, get it published and make some money so you can go see a counselor/psychologist which you so clearly and desperately need.
I'm not posting to bash, seriously... I just really, really find it hard to believe that someone who has been teaching and living the alternative medical lifestyle for so long hasn't developed a tougher skin. You can't tell me, you've never come across people questioning you, raising an eyebrow at your claims, words of wisdom, etc?
I'm sorry to hear about your story, it seems your life has been tougher than most. Don't bitch at me either for so called bashing you because you've been suicidal.. been there, done that myself honey..
Damn woman, write a book, get it published and make some money so you can go see a counselor/psychologist which you so clearly and desperately need.
I'm not posting to bash, seriously... I just really, really find it hard to believe that someone who has been teaching and living the alternative medical lifestyle for so long hasn't developed a tougher skin. You can't tell me, you've never come across people questioning you, raising an eyebrow at your claims, words of wisdom, etc?
I'm sorry to hear about your story, it seems your life has been tougher than most. Don't bitch at me either for so called bashing you because you've been suicidal.. been there, done that myself honey..
On this message board, if someone disagrees with what you say, they'll generally let you know. I'm sorry this has been a problem for you, but it's unlikely to change soon. If this bothers you, then I'm sorry, but it's unlikely to change.sleepyjane wrote:Can people who wish to attack me and the topic, leave this thread alone and just move elsewhere not analyzing every move I make or telling me how awful and disturbing I am.
You can delete posts that haven't been replied to by clicking the X in the top right corner of the post. Once a post has been replied to, it's locked in time. I hope this helps in the future if you have this happen to you again.sleepyjane wrote:I said one thread was posted in error and I see no way to delete it.
Simply put, no. You ask us to adapt to you, we ask you to adapt to us. This community is what it is because of the people that make it up. Like any community, we have etiquette and rules, and again, I'm truly sorry if you've been offended in the process. I really don't think most of us are trying to attack you directly.sleepyjane wrote:Can you stop counting my threads, analyzing what I ask, criticizing what and how I ask it, becoming furious if I use too many words or hijacked too many threads with my stupid desire to try to not feel like crap after 25 years of it.
I really do hope you find the answers to your questions, but you may find you get more applicable responses from us if you take to heart some of the suggestions offered here.
I'm a programmer Jim, not a doctor!
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Natural treatments and periodic limb movement disorder
I didn't know I had PLMD until a week ago, but everyday in the past, I woke up and the backs of my calves felt like I exercised all day (apparently, I was exercising all night in my sleep unbeknowst to me with the constant jerk/flex of knee, ankle, and big toe.).. My knees hurt so bad when I woke up but I attributed it to arthritis and my big toes ached on occasion so badly they (doctors) thought I had gout but no problems with that last 6 months. Now that I found out the big toe is the one you jerk/flex with PLMD, I am wondering it all these leg and foot and knees pains were not due to all this nocturnal movement.
It is amazing. I have tried several alternative treatments for the last 4 nights and although I do not know if I am still jerking as I never was aware of it and live alone to sday for sure, I will report that the leg pains have greatly diminished making me think maybe these alternative treatments are helping.
I didn't know I had PLMD until a week ago, but everyday in the past, I woke up and the backs of my calves felt like I exercised all day (apparently, I was exercising all night in my sleep unbeknowst to me with the constant jerk/flex of knee, ankle, and big toe.).. My knees hurt so bad when I woke up but I attributed it to arthritis and my big toes ached on occasion so badly they (doctors) thought I had gout but no problems with that last 6 months. Now that I found out the big toe is the one you jerk/flex with PLMD, I am wondering it all these leg and foot and knees pains were not due to all this nocturnal movement.
It is amazing. I have tried several alternative treatments for the last 4 nights and although I do not know if I am still jerking as I never was aware of it and live alone to sday for sure, I will report that the leg pains have greatly diminished making me think maybe these alternative treatments are helping.
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