How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by Midwest_non_sleeper » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:48 am

DreamDiver wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:07 am
Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:32 am
Hey, count your blessings. After being in the military and being deployed, and now in law enforcement for 15+ years, I regularly die or am killed in a myriad of ways in my dreams. It happens so often now that I basically just shrug them off. I have been: Drowned, shot, stabbed, choked to death, fallen from various things, including a couple of buildings, run over...and oddly enough, in my most recent one, I died from being stung by bees repeatedly? At this point, I beginning to think the 'ole Reaper is just having fun with me. Afterwards, me talking to my wife: "Welp, died again last night, I'm off to work honey, have a good day, love you!"

"Dreams are weird" is the understatement of the century.
Without doubt. It makes me remember too the health care workers in hospitals all over the world right now that are seeing so much. We could not be here without your service. Thank you.

I'm curious...

If anyone may have secrets on how to destress from work prior to bed, it's got to be you. Perhaps you'll share some insights?
I don't know if I would put that much faith in me. I've been to therapists, psychiatrists (still see one quarterly due to what it is that I specialize in, in law enforcement), psychologists, and psychotherapists.

They all were a minor help, honestly. I think that I reached the point where my brain took matters into its own hands and basically built a psychological wall around all of the bad. It's still there, it's just obfuscated. When I lie down at night, I am literally sleeping within one or two minutes. I've basically just taught my brain to...shut down. Of course, that doesn't help after I'm sleeping, hence the very explicit dreams. The fact that I remember them at all is bothersome, because that means I'm probably waking up too early, before they can be filed away and forgotten forever.

My ability was bred out of necessity to discontinue catastrophic damage I suspect, but there are some things that I did. After work, I do what needs to be done around the house as quickly as I can, because I know that I need a few hours to do things that I actually enjoy so that I can de-stress. I've always been an avid gamer, so video games take up a little time, riding my recumbent exercise bike takes up a bit of time, the remainder is usually just enjoying the company of my family. Spending time with my kids is always a joy. Sometimes my wife and I will watch a light movie, nothing overly dramatic.

The other thing was I made a commitment to always practice very good sleep hygiene rules. I go to bed at the same time every night. I don't drink or eat several hours before sleep. I don't use electronics an hour or so before bed. The only thing I do in my bed is sleep and read (well...uh, we'll forego the "other" thing out of decency). I only read actual books, not e-books. Doing all of those things allows me to put my brain into some semblance of "sleep-mode". It knows that when I begin the ritual, it's closing in to time for sleep.

Above all of that, I had to learn to not worry about everything. This takes a alot of time and a certain amount of maturity (that I probably still don't have). I had to teach myself to not be concerned about the things that happened during the day, the things I saw, or the things that may happen tomorrow, as I no longer had any control over them. I had to give myself to the chaos for the peace of order, if that makes any sense. In other words, I had to let the chaos happen and not be concerned with it in exchange for the ability to have order in my mind. If there is nothing that I can do at the moment, then I essentially banish it from thought, because it doesn't deserve to ruin my night. I continually told myself that I can face the chaos of tomorrow...tomorrow, there is no need to try to mentally face it tonight. Sometimes it sounds counter-intuitive, but it has worked for me. It's almost a psychological game, but the only player on the board is you. You're beating yourself, and the only way to win is to not play the game (thanks Wargames!).

Thoughts and emotions can be controlled, but it can't be done when the mind has a head start and is racing ahead of you. Slow down the race, catch up, overtake it and earn your peace. Easier said than done, but it can be done. At the end of the day, while you're lying there, mind racing, just remember that no matter how bad things may be, how bad they could be, or whatever may happen tomorrow, the World and the Cosmos are undoubtedly unfolding as they should, with or without a racing mind or your help; ergo, there is no meaningful sense in agonizing over that which you cannot change at that very moment. Banish it and find your peace, trust me, it's there.

Edit: Sorry, that was really long winded and probably not much help.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by Miss Emerita » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:07 am

Midwest non-sleeper, thank you so much for writing this amazing post. I am certain that every reader will benefit from your experience and observations.
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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by zonker » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:16 am

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by Hang Fire » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:21 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:52 am


By any chance is your work desk in the bedroom? If so, try to figure out how to work in another room.

That's a big deal for me. If I worked all day in the bedroom, it would definitely interfere with my sleep.

I'll subscribe to this topic to see if the OP reports an improvement from any of the suggestions posted here. Good luck.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by DreamDiver » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:33 am

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:48 am
I don't know if I would put that much faith in me.
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I had to teach myself to not be concerned about the things that happened during the day, the things I saw, or the things that may happen tomorrow, as I no longer had any control over them. I had to give myself to the chaos for the peace of order, if that makes any sense. In other words, I had to let the chaos happen and not be concerned with it in exchange for the ability to have order in my mind. If there is nothing that I can do at the moment, then I essentially banish it from thought, because it doesn't deserve to ruin my night. I continually told myself that I can face the chaos of tomorrow...tomorrow, there is no need to try to mentally face it tonight. Sometimes it sounds counter-intuitive, but it has worked for me. It's almost a psychological game, but the only player on the board is you. You're beating yourself, and the only way to win is to not play the game (thanks Wargames!).
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Edit: Sorry, that was really long winded and probably not much help.
The thing is, you do have faith in yourself, or it would be chaos outside.
I get what you mean by giving yourself to the chaos.

I bet your words will be a lot more impactful for other forum members than you suspect.

And don't worry about being long-winded. You write beautifully.

Thank you for this well-though-out response.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by Hang Fire » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:41 am

Update?

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:59 am

I have found that a long soak to be especially helpful.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by weiss27md » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:14 pm

Magnesium later in the day, Vitamin D early in the day via sun or supplement. No social media or news at night. No caffeine after lunch. No food within 3-5 hours of bed. Just soft yellow lights once dark outside, if you have to get yellow or orange glasses. Keep room cool with AC and fan, helps make noise too.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:00 pm

Watch videos of puppies and kittens;
or get a fish tank.
Watching fish is very restful--unless you are a cat.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by MurrayNevada » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 pm

"Hey, count your blessings. After being in the military and being deployed, and now in law enforcement for 15+ years, I regularly die or am killed in a myriad of ways in my dreams. It happens so often now that I basically just shrug them off. I have been: Drowned, shot, stabbed, choked to death, fallen from various things, including a couple of buildings, run over...and oddly enough, in my most recent one, I died from being stung by bees repeatedly? At this point, I beginning to think the 'ole Reaper is just having fun with me. Afterwards, me talking to my wife: "Welp, died again last night, I'm off to work honey, have a good day, love you!"
"Dreams are weird" is the understatement of the century."


I frequently dream I'm back in Vietnam and get separated from my infantry squad while on patrol. In the dream I am walking through triple canopy jungle as night arrives and my squad is gone and I never find them. Some variations on that theme in each dream. I was in that jungle 50+ years ago yet the dream is so very real. Waking up is wonderful.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:57 pm

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Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 pm
"Hey, count your blessings. After being in the military and being deployed, and now in law enforcement for 15+ years, I regularly die or am killed in a myriad of ways in my dreams. It happens so often now that I basically just shrug them off. I have been: Drowned, shot, stabbed, choked to death, fallen from various things, including a couple of buildings, run over...and oddly enough, in my most recent one, I died from being stung by bees repeatedly? At this point, I beginning to think the 'ole Reaper is just having fun with me. Afterwards, me talking to my wife: "Welp, died again last night, I'm off to work honey, have a good day, love you!"
"Dreams are weird" is the understatement of the century."


I frequently dream I'm back in Vietnam and get separated from my infantry squad while on patrol. In the dream I am walking through triple canopy jungle as night arrives and my squad is gone and I never find them. Some variations on that theme in each dream. I was in that jungle 50+ years ago yet the dream is so very real. Waking up is wonderful.
The nature of your dreams could be an indication that your settings are suboptimal.

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Re: How to de-stress from work prior to bed?

Post by Midwest_non_sleeper » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:33 am

MurrayNevada wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 pm
"Hey, count your blessings. After being in the military and being deployed, and now in law enforcement for 15+ years, I regularly die or am killed in a myriad of ways in my dreams. It happens so often now that I basically just shrug them off. I have been: Drowned, shot, stabbed, choked to death, fallen from various things, including a couple of buildings, run over...and oddly enough, in my most recent one, I died from being stung by bees repeatedly? At this point, I beginning to think the 'ole Reaper is just having fun with me. Afterwards, me talking to my wife: "Welp, died again last night, I'm off to work honey, have a good day, love you!"
"Dreams are weird" is the understatement of the century."


I frequently dream I'm back in Vietnam and get separated from my infantry squad while on patrol. In the dream I am walking through triple canopy jungle as night arrives and my squad is gone and I never find them. Some variations on that theme in each dream. I was in that jungle 50+ years ago yet the dream is so very real. Waking up is wonderful.
Man, I'm sorry, that's got to be rough. Triple canopy with night setting in and losing your squad. Yeah, I'll pass on that, a desert setting doesn't seem so bad compared to that. I can only imagine the anxiety on waking up.

Have you been going through some stressful times lately? That seems to be a decent indicator as far as I can tell, at least with me. When things get crazy at work and the stress ramps up, then I know I'm in for some sleepless nights. Unfortunately, I don't know if we'll ever figure out the human brain as it relates to dreams. Trillions of neurons and synapses all firing make the most complex robot or computer code seem like child's play.

I wish you luck my friend, if there is anything I can do, let me know. I am keenly aware of the loneliness of waking up in the early morning hours drenched in sweat, mind racing, heart pumping - while it seems that the entire remainder of the World is still asleep. It's a bad time.