General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
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zonker
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by zonker » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:19 am
pfft! you and your fancy pants facts.
i particularly liked the breakdown under THE VENTILATOR, showing the steps up the path from cpap.
this also shows the wide misunderstanding as to how ventilators work. i learned from this that there is more than one type of ventilator, just like there is more than one type of "cpap".
thanks for posting this.
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Aquarian
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by Aquarian » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:24 pm
I have used a recliner instead of bed When really ill (pneumonia). Reclining somewhat plus my pap made a big difference. I would certainly use again for any breathing issue. I used my Apap in the hospital once I was admitted.. So take it with you with filters, etc if you are hospitalized.. and every night at home when in bed.
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by colomom » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:32 pm
If you had bothered to read my original post, I asked about the efficacy of using CPAP, APAP, or bi-pap as a first line mechanism to treat less substantial respiratory failure, at no point did I suggest that CPAP could be a replacement for more invasive ventilation.
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by jnk... » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:22 pm
All acute respiratory failure is substantial, since it is a medical emergency. It has nothing to do with chronic forms. Please do not confuse those concepts. One belongs in a conversation about presentation of COVID-19, the other is about long-term aftereffects. The important pressure on the medical infrastructure and supplies is about the acute not the chronic.
Ventilators most in-demand for COVID-19 treatment push air and oxygen into and out of a person's lungs through tubes inserted through their mouth and trachea. They can help patients survive and recover from respiratory failure caused by the virus. . . . Hospitals seeking ventilators for COVID-19 patients are typically looking for their higher-end "invasive ventilators," not CPAP or Bi-PAP machines like Tesla purchased. That's because, as NPR recently reported: "Ventilators require a breathing tube and operate as closed systems with a filter that traps any pathogens. Face masks generally used on CPAPs or BiPAPs allow air to escape, pumping the virus into the surroundings and potentially infecting other patients, caregivers or anyone nearby."CNBC: Tesla could help make lithium ion batteries for ventilators to help fight COVID-19, says ResMed CEO Mick Farrell.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/01/tesla-c ... rrell.html
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by palerider » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:53 pm
colomom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:32 pm
If you had bothered to read my original post, I asked about the efficacy of using CPAP, APAP, or bi-pap as a first line mechanism to treat less substantial respiratory failure, at no point did I suggest that CPAP could be a replacement for more invasive ventilation.
Since I didn't, in any way whatsoever, allude to YOU in my post, I don't know why you're so prickly.
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by raisedfist » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:07 am
From what I've read hospitals are converting their V60's, which are NIV, to be potentially used for COVID patients in part by using special filters. IDK all the details of course.
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colomom
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by colomom » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:57 pm
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:53 pm
colomom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:32 pm
If you had bothered to read my original post, I asked about the efficacy of using CPAP, APAP, or bi-pap as a first line mechanism to treat less substantial respiratory failure, at no point did I suggest that CPAP could be a replacement for more invasive ventilation.
Since I didn't, in any way whatsoever, allude to YOU in my post, I don't know why you're so prickly.
You were responding to my thread so I assumed your response was directed towards me.
To state the obvious I like many am prickly because like for us all my life is tough right now and I’m admittedly grumpy.
Another question to add to this thread:
For those of us who have O2 concentrators, can we utilize them if family members become sick to minimize the probability of hospitalization? Those with COPD have to be careful with supplemental O2, but for the rest of us is there any risk to using extra O2 during the day if you become sick and your O2 levels start to drop?
Stay healthy everyone!
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by jnk... » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:46 pm
Since the progression can be quick for some, there is nothing I would personally recommend that might delay anyone from contacting a doc for individualized thoughts and suggestions as to the wisest course based on unique personal health factors. It is not a time to hide symptoms or self-treat based on assumptions, in my opinion.
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