SoClean and Coronavirus question

roadcycler wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:44 am

So much easier to just wipe down your phone, take 15 secs and also gets rid of all the oils and grime left behind as well. SoClean does not clean/sterilize under the grime

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:28 pm

Will we EVER stop hearing nonsense about NOclean?

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:47 am

That situation, in my opinion, is why we should be thankful for the continued regular questions about it here and elsewhere: Although it might feel bothersome or redundant to keep calmly answering similar questions over and over, our taking advantage of thise opportunities to pass on helpful information about a useless product with misleading advertising is providing a useful service to online communities as we chip away at product one poster at a time without sounding hysterical or condemning or insulting.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:52 am

But I neally NEED to condemn and insult . . .
I'm not allowed to burn their business, or shoot the CEO, or push Bill off a tall building.
Froggy needs to vent.
(Pun intended)

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:52 am

again, i am SO used to you joshing around that i forget your serious side.

thank you for posting this. not just applicable to soclean, but to a lot of questions presented to the forum. thanks for the reminder that we actual do good here.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:48 pm

Just don't expect me to ever tell you that again, you crazy, out-there goofball.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:48 pm

Oh, wait, this isn't a PM, is it? Guess I messed up. One day I've GOT to figure out all this new-fangled technology stuff.

once you do, will you explain it to me?

i keep asking dog slobber but i don't think my private messages are reaching him?

Risks:
The residual smell of ozone may be unpleasant and risky. Ozone exposure is potentially dangerous among those with respiratory conditions. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration describes it as a “toxic gas with no known useful medical application.” The Environmental Protection Agency says that relatively low amounts of ozone can cause shortness of breath and worsen chronic respiratory disease.

In fact, ironically, exposure to it may compromise the body’s ability to fight respiratory infections.

...

Ultimately, the available CPAP cleaners and sanitizers seem unlikely to provide additional cleaning capacity beyond standard methods of cleaning with soap and water. There is no evidence that these devices reduce the risk of infection.

These companies also have no financial interest in investigating this possibility. The devices sell well without any such study. This may reveal much about the motivation behind the recent push in direct-to-consumer marketing of the product, beyond the science supporting its use.

A Word From Verywell
Further research may be helpful to determine if these devices have any role in routine CPAP therapy. The risk of infection is so small, and the evidence for benefit so weak, that these devices are not currently recommended. Save your money and buy a lifetime supply of liquid dish soap instead!

https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-you-n ... in-4171650

I will give you some facts, and I base the facts on the fact that I am the one who works in the industry of low temperature sterilzation

1. So Clean claims they use the same technology as is used in hospitals. LIE - the hospital ozone sterilizers cost upwards of 100,000.00 and require an O2 farm (a room with 15 to 20 tall O2 cylinders) to provide pure oxygen to extract the ozone. Besides the fact that SoClean lied about this, why on earth do you think a 300.00 device can even come close to what a 100,000.00 device can do. If SoClean was validated to sterilize or even high level disinfect, hospitals would have hundreds of them rather than the 100K devices. The SoClean just does not have the power to do what you think it does.

2. It does not clean. Period. You think it does, place a small dab of peanut butter in your hose and see if it is still there when the cycle is complete. You think this is not a good test, it is the basis of the VA soil test, the test that all medical cleaners must pass or they cannot claim to clean.

3. Amazon reviews - nothing but feel good stories. I have not read one Amazon review that can factually claim that the SoClean kills germs. If you know of one, please post the link because I would like to read it. What is the basis of a 5 star review when all they can go on is they like it? Meaningless.

4. I did own a SoClean on the 30 day trial, when I realized what it was vs. the claims they make I returned it under the 30 day return policy. Why not just get one of the room ozone fans and hang your mask in front of it, they would both do the same thing which is nothing.

I am just repeating the same thing I have typed here about a hundred times; for now on I will just say it is awesome, give the scammers your money, you will love it.

viewtopic/t157842/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... 9#p1210375

January 8, 2020
To Our Valued Patient,
ResMed announced an update to its limited warranty that may affect whether you choose to use an ozone
device with your ResMed machine and mask. Please review the detail of this update below.*

ResMed user guides advise patients to periodically clean ResMed machines, components and masks with
mild detergent and warm water only. Some patients choose to use other means to clean and/or disinfect
their machines. With the increased use of ozone devices, ResMed has observed that prolonged and
repeated use of an ozone device may eventually cause internal damage to a ResMed machine, leading to
an increase in motor noise.
Warranty update: Effective for sales of ResMed machines on or after February 1, 2020, ResMed’s limited
warranty will exclude damage to ResMed machines caused by use of ozone devices. The limited warranty
on ResMed masks, with the exception of ResMed AirTouch™ products, will not be affected.
ResMed is not taking a position on whether you should use an ozone device. That decision is up to you, as
the patient, to balance the convenience of using an ozone device versus the likelihood of potential damage
to your ResMed machine. ResMed is reinforcing the cleaning instructions in its machine user guide:
periodic cleaning with mild detergent and warm water is all that is required with a ResMed machine,
component or mask. This letter requires no action on your part.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact the manufacturer of the ozone device you are
currently using or, for medical advice, your physician.
Sincerely,
Your home care provider

https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... letter.pdf

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:59 pm

Now that I have "vented", I need to clean my vent.

roadcycler wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:35 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:59 pm

Now that I have "vented", I need to clean my vent.

Chili or Curry?

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:52 am

But I neally NEED to condemn and insult . . .
I'm not allowed to burn their business, or shoot the CEO, or push Bill off a tall building.
Froggy needs to vent.
(Pun intended)

wm_hess wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:13 am

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:52 am

But I neally NEED to condemn and insult . . .
I'm not allowed to burn their business, or shoot the CEO, or push Bill off a tall building.
Froggy needs to vent.
(Pun intended)

You know I've been on the lookout for aggressive and angry amphibians every time I leave my apartment. The building's not that tall but ya never know!

-Bill