CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

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CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by Victor500 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:52 pm

Please help with your experiences and suggestions,

Last night I was jolted from my sleep , with an electrical current from.my full face CPAP mask. This has never happened to me before, and I have been using Cpap full face mask for quite some time about 2 yrs off and on.

Heres how I can best describe the electrical current from.my cpap mask. Suddenly about 2.5 hrs after I fell asleep, I felt a sharp stinging electrical current around my nose and mouth, my breathing seemed to stop, i got up with a jolt and actually rolled off the bed with a gasp, causing my cpap tube to disconnect from.my mask.

I looked at the machine in the dark and it had turned itself off. Thimking there was some wrong with the machine, i disconnected my mask and went back to sleep, then in the morning i noticed the power cord had disconnected from the back of the unit given the jerking motion I created when I awoke with a jolt.

Now to all who might think that I have some medical conditions or family health conditions that caused this to happen, i can only say that I dont. I have been using Cpap off and on for 2 yrs with no trouble. I Started using it again 1st march of this year, where i began using it regularly till today 21st march. Last usage was Dec 2019.

So i am quite stunned and petrified that this happened. I believe
The moisture in the tube connected to my face mask somehow created a path to the electrical circuitry of the cpap.machine as water/ moisture build up is a conductor of electricity.

Its very weird to report such an issue. Now given the CV outbreak i wont be visiting my sleep clinic anytime soon.. However in the meantime if anyone can share some experiences or provide an opinions as to why this happened it would be most appreciated..

P.S I wont be using the machine in the meantime till i get a chance to check the machine with the supplier/ dealer. I believe somehow moisture buildup in the tube or in the water chamber somehow may have created an electrical path to the circuitry of the machine.

As a last thought i am wondering if the water in the water reservoir overflowed onto the heating element that may have caused this problem.. just my thoughts. Thanks VIC

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by Wulfman... » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:14 pm

Please fill out your profile with your exact equipment.

We have no way of knowing what or why something like this could have possibly happened. Doesn't sound logical to me.


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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:44 pm

I can only think there might have been an electrical storm in the area.
Or a temporary nerve disorder.
As a teen, I had several attacks of nerve pain on my lower face/ neck.
It felt just like a shock. I never saw a doctor.
High school was very stressful--afterwards, I had no more attacks.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by Julie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:05 am

Look up trigeminal neuralgia - see if anything fits... but also consider that you may have been dreaming and been jolted awake by something there, and attributed it to the machine, etc.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:39 am

I have no advice for you.

What I would do, keep on using the machine assuming it will never happen again.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by D.H. » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:26 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:39 am
I have no advice for you.

What I would do, keep on using the machine assuming it will never happen again.


I agree with granny.

However, I'd like to add that you should make sure every component is bone dry, that the cord is not frayed or scorched, and that the electrical socket is not damaged or compromised.

Also, make sure no other electrical components (lamps. alarm clocks, etc.) are nearby (move them away if you need to).

Then be careful not to fill the water past the line.

Also, you might want run the machine while you're awake (without warink the mask) to make sure everything is in good working order.

BTW, please fill in your profile so we can know what equipment you're using.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by Dog Slobber » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:29 am

May not be be a true electrical shock at all.

There are some sensations we experience that feel like electrical shocks.
Lhermitte's sign, hypnagogic jerks, anxiety.

I'm not going to rule out a true electrical shock, but that seems extremely unlikely.

Though you haven't posted your particular machine type, this applies to most. The electrical current is converted from AC to DC, stepped down externally on your machine.

There would have to be an electrical pathway from the machine to your nose. Any CPAP "rainout" would simply not be sufficient and not continuous. CPAP rainout and humidity does not contain minerals found in most water that makes it so conducive. Lying in bed, you're also (likely) poorly grounded.

In the unlikely event that you did actually experience a true electrical shock, the most likely cause might be via the heating element in a heated hose. Consider switching the heated hose out.
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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by CPAP2017 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:27 am

Victor500 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:52 pm
Please help with your experiences and suggestions,

Last night I was jolted from my sleep , with an electrical current from.my full face CPAP mask.
Well, I'm officially freaked out now.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by D.H. » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:35 am

Most CPAP machines do have external transformers (sometimes called "bricks"). They convert standard household voltage (100 to 240 volts/50 or 60 hz) to to 12 or 24 volts direct current. This will appear along your power cord as a "brick" between the wall plug and the machine.

However, many (all?) F&P CPAPs do not have an external transformer. I'm not sure if they have an internal transformer or if they actually have an AC motor.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by palerider » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:25 am

CPAP2017 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:27 am
Victor500 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:52 pm
Please help with your experiences and suggestions,

Last night I was jolted from my sleep , with an electrical current from.my full face CPAP mask.
Well, I'm officially freaked out now.
Well, you shouldn't, be, because this has all the signs of a troll post. Back in the bad old days, when the owner foolishly let any idiot on the internet post here as a guest, we had trolls posting crap like this all the time. Now, it takes more effort, but I guess some people have such pathetic lives that they get their jollies trying to freak people out.

Signs of a troll post: ridiculous assertion, new account, one post...

The CPAP masks are all plastic and silicone, they *cannot carry an electric current*.

So, even if someone actually *thinks* something like this happened, they're mistaken, and jumping to ridiculous conclusions in the fog of sleep.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by zonker » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:44 am

Dog Slobber wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:29 am

Lhermitte's sign,
my friend, you continue to educate me. did not know of this condition.

sounds horrid.
people say i'm self absorbed.
but that's enough about them.
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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by Goofproof » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 pm

CPAP2017 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:27 am
Victor500 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:52 pm
Please help with your experiences and suggestions,

Last night I was jolted from my sleep , with an electrical current from.my full face CPAP mask.
Well, I'm officially freaked out now.
You must be easily freaked out, I wouldn't get freaked out because unless you deliberately did something stupid with your XPAP (Misuse), electric can't jump out, it doesn't even need grounded.

The OP would be better served to use his XPAP ever time he plans on sleeping, not jumping in and out on treatment. Monitoring his data with "Oscar", posting that data here and getting his XPAP use working for him.

Until that happens, I wouldn't be freaking out, too many logical things in the world to freak out over, if you want to do it. :lol: Jim
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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:24 pm

zonker wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:44 am
Dog Slobber wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:29 am

Lhermitte's sign,
my friend, you continue to educate me. did not know of this condition.

sounds horrid.
It is sometimes a symptom of MS.
So I heartily agree---horrid does not even come close.
The OP's experience is close to what I experienced over 50 years ago,
which was likely a transient form of neuralgia.
Frightening, but little more than that.
The OP needs to relax and see if it happens again--
then bug the heck out of his doctor IF it repeats.
If not, forget about it.
Another thing-- off and on is no way to use cpap--please do it every night/all night.

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Re: CPAP ELECTRIAL SHOCK

Post by Goofproof » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:53 pm

I have Type II Diabetes, and nerve damage, the result is loss of feeling and when my Sugar levels get to high, the feeling of a ice pick being jabbed into my foot at about 15 to 39 sec timings, the price I pay for being bad. Jim
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