OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
The leaders of hospital systems are corrupt. Instead of building up their capacity over the years they've actually cut down on ICU beds and equipment available. A properly ran hospital shouldn't have to panic, scramble and beg the Federal government for help just when things are starting to get bad.
We never listen. We never prepare. Such is the case when entire systems are ran for profit.
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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
Unfortunately more & more of government systems are being run like for-profit instead of service for the people. Education is one big one that comes to mind.raisedfist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:25 pm
We never listen. We never prepare. Such is the case when entire systems are ran for profit.
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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
Saying that the history will repeat itself, isn't predicting.
It's like saying the markets will take a hit someday.
It's like saying the markets will take a hit someday.
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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
Several years ago, my better half had a sudden onset of unexplained severe back pain that took us by surprise. Took her straight to the hospital during flu season to get some help. It turned out to be a quickly diagnosed kidney infection.
This was a brand new, up to date hospital and was less than 3 years old at the time. It was built with a larger capacity than the old hospital. When we got there, the place was crammed full of folks. We had to wait about 6 hrs to be seen. We waited so long that the back pain had subsided and we were thinking it was a fluke and were about to just go back home when they called our name.
There were people on beds and gurneys lining the hallways as we were walking back. I remember seeing one older gent sitting in one of those hospital room reclining chairs, with an IV bag on a pole next to him. They said it was all Flu patients and every single bed in the hospital was taken and they were overflowing with Patients and no regular rooms were available.
We did end up in one of the ER rooms they were keeping for non-flu patients and were told that we might need to be moved out on a moments notice (they had her on drip and wanted to keep an eye on her for a bit).
So for my local hospital in the Atlanta suburbs, when it comes to treating flu, they can more than handle being completely swamped with flu patients. I'm sure it is not something they like to do and they would probably like to avoid it. However, at least for flu, when the flood gates open, they have the ability to triage a huge number of patients and treat them as indicated, even when the number of patients far exceeds the hospital's design capacity. They weren't turning away anyone.
I understand this is purely anecdotal. But I'm sure our hospital is not an isolated case. Things may turn into a struggle, and direly so in some cases, but we will manage to get through it. I see far too many otherwise rational adults in my area, losing their minds and panicking like chicken-little irrationally. From what I can gather, those folks are all over the nation. They are certainly all over the financial markets like a bad rash. I chalk it up in large part to herd mentality. We (as a nation) see others panic, we're not completely sure why, but we feel we better panic too and follow suit! We all need to take a breath and get a grip.
I'm not saying the pandemic is a walk in the park. I am absolutely saying it is not worthy of blind panic, stripping the store shelves, wrecking the global financial markets, calling for curfews and lockdowns, closing businesses to the point some won't survive, and folks losing their jobs over it.
Opinions will vary.
-JD
This was a brand new, up to date hospital and was less than 3 years old at the time. It was built with a larger capacity than the old hospital. When we got there, the place was crammed full of folks. We had to wait about 6 hrs to be seen. We waited so long that the back pain had subsided and we were thinking it was a fluke and were about to just go back home when they called our name.
There were people on beds and gurneys lining the hallways as we were walking back. I remember seeing one older gent sitting in one of those hospital room reclining chairs, with an IV bag on a pole next to him. They said it was all Flu patients and every single bed in the hospital was taken and they were overflowing with Patients and no regular rooms were available.
We did end up in one of the ER rooms they were keeping for non-flu patients and were told that we might need to be moved out on a moments notice (they had her on drip and wanted to keep an eye on her for a bit).
So for my local hospital in the Atlanta suburbs, when it comes to treating flu, they can more than handle being completely swamped with flu patients. I'm sure it is not something they like to do and they would probably like to avoid it. However, at least for flu, when the flood gates open, they have the ability to triage a huge number of patients and treat them as indicated, even when the number of patients far exceeds the hospital's design capacity. They weren't turning away anyone.
I understand this is purely anecdotal. But I'm sure our hospital is not an isolated case. Things may turn into a struggle, and direly so in some cases, but we will manage to get through it. I see far too many otherwise rational adults in my area, losing their minds and panicking like chicken-little irrationally. From what I can gather, those folks are all over the nation. They are certainly all over the financial markets like a bad rash. I chalk it up in large part to herd mentality. We (as a nation) see others panic, we're not completely sure why, but we feel we better panic too and follow suit! We all need to take a breath and get a grip.
I'm not saying the pandemic is a walk in the park. I am absolutely saying it is not worthy of blind panic, stripping the store shelves, wrecking the global financial markets, calling for curfews and lockdowns, closing businesses to the point some won't survive, and folks losing their jobs over it.
Opinions will vary.
-JD
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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
Herd Mentality, can be useful, Fight or Flight response, but not always. It's often, Monkey See, Monkey Do!JayDee wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:34 amSeveral years ago, my better half had a sudden onset of unexplained severe back pain that took us by surprise. Took her straight to the hospital during flu season to get some help. It turned out to be a quickly diagnosed kidney infection.
This was a brand new, up to date hospital and was less than 3 years old at the time. It was built with a larger capacity than the old hospital. When we got there, the place was crammed full of folks. We had to wait about 6 hrs to be seen. We waited so long that the back pain had subsided and we were thinking it was a fluke and were about to just go back home when they called our name.
There were people on beds and gurneys lining the hallways as we were walking back. I remember seeing one older gent sitting in one of those hospital room reclining chairs, with an IV bag on a pole next to him. They said it was all Flu patients and every single bed in the hospital was taken and they were overflowing with Patients and no regular rooms were available.
We did end up in one of the ER rooms they were keeping for non-flu patients and were told that we might need to be moved out on a moments notice (they had her on drip and wanted to keep an eye on her for a bit).
So for my local hospital in the Atlanta suburbs, when it comes to treating flu, they can more than handle being completely swamped with flu patients. I'm sure it is not something they like to do and they would probably like to avoid it. However, at least for flu, when the flood gates open, they have the ability to triage a huge number of patients and treat them as indicated, even when the number of patients far exceeds the hospital's design capacity. They weren't turning away anyone.
I understand this is purely anecdotal. But I'm sure our hospital is not an isolated case. Things may turn into a struggle, and direly so in some cases, but we will manage to get through it. I see far too many otherwise rational adults in my area, losing their minds and panicking like chicken-little irrationally. From what I can gather, those folks are all over the nation. They are certainly all over the financial markets like a bad rash. I chalk it up in large part to herd mentality. We (as a nation) see others panic, we're not completely sure why, but we feel we better panic too and follow suit! We all need to take a breath and get a grip.
I'm not saying the pandemic is a walk in the park. I am absolutely saying it is not worthy of blind panic, stripping the store shelves, wrecking the global financial markets, calling for curfews and lockdowns, closing businesses to the point some won't survive, and folks losing their jobs over it.
Opinions will vary.
-JD
Not a good thing, Turkeys in a pin upon seeing a piece of paper blow into the pin will all run to a corner and smother each other. Ducks will stand in the rain, hold their heads up and drown.
I prefer to have the real facts and react with my own Mentally. It has served me well for the last 75 years, for the most part. I tried to prepare for many things that might happen, I try to keep a stock of food that will store well and other things, (Drugs, household supplies, ect.) I haven't been in a store in over two years due to health, the wife has to do it all, she doesn't believe in my ways, so we are caught a little short this time. I have kids in town to help. We will get by or not, as you get older some things fall out of your control, but it beats them never having been in your control.

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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
This is the same person who ALLEGEDLY said that "640K ought to be enough for anybody".
(I know, there are arguments on both sides of that statement)
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2 ... y-it-.html
I've had an intense dislike for Gates for decades, but had to use his products.......and maybe that's why.
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I to prefer Windows XP and even Windows 7, but I couldn't go back to the level of hardware that it uses, got to have my USB 3,1, faster processors, and data transfer rates. I like Android but not a total replacement, yet! JimWulfman... wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:47 pmThis is the same person who ALLEGEDLY said that "640K ought to be enough for anybody".
(I know, there are arguments on both sides of that statement)
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2 ... y-it-.html
I've had an intense dislike for Gates for decades, but had to use his products.......and maybe that's why.
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Re: OT..Virus..We didn't listen to him..
When I got a 12k memory expansion for my Comodore Vic 20 I felt like I could tune the world



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When I purchased my Apple 2E, I got the top of the line machine they had. Dual disk drives and 1K of memory. We had several of the same machines at work and the company helped pay for home computers at that time. You can get a lot of machine today for what they charged for that machine.
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Remember when Vic20's were being used by ham operators to instantly translate Morse code.
It was miraculous.
(or was it shortwave operators?)
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Both, at one time I had two Commodore 128's and two Commodore 64's networked together. I ran the Morse Code program also. Two Printers also, 500k ram disk. I could have ruled the world. then I went Windows 95 and 98SE. The learning curve was costly for my toys. Jimchunkyfrog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:43 pmRemember when Vic20's were being used by ham operators to instantly translate Morse code.
It was miraculous.
(or was it shortwave operators?)
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My youngest was programming games, drawing programs, etc on the Amiga,
when the hostile takeover wiped commodore out.
It took years before other computers could come close to what the video toaster did.
when the hostile takeover wiped commodore out.
It took years before other computers could come close to what the video toaster did.
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Started out with a VIC 20 writing games in BASIC. Had several Commodore models but never an Amiga. A lot of TV stations use them because they were far ahead of anything else in graphics.