AirTouch F20 is such a major disappointment

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ChicagoGranny
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Re: AirTouch F20 is such a major disappointment

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:53 pm

YawnGone wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:32 pm
Who's asking for perfect? I'd settle for an F20 that doesn't leak out of 4 different spots and gets no better no matter how much I adjust it, unless I tighten to the point my head's about to pop off.
Have you looked at a few videos for that mask on youtube?

Here are some tips for preventing leaks:
To reduce unintentional mask leak -

- Make sure the mask is fitted properly. (See mask manufacturer's video.)

- Make sure the headgear is adjusted properly (See mask manufacturer's video.)

- If you use a low ramp pressure or a low minimum pressure, you should fit and adjust your mask at the higher pressures it is operating at for most of the night. You would temporarily change the machine pressure settings while you do the fitting and adjusting. It's best to do this well before bedtime before you are tired and ready for sleep. Don't forget to change your settings back to the ones you prefer.

- Make sure to use good hose management - the hose should not pull on the mask. Notice how your hose is positioned between machine and mask. It should be positioned to minimize any pull on the mask. Hose management is an individual practice. How it is done depends on the mask, the position of the machine, your sleeping position and other factors specific to the individual.

- If you still have problems, learn from the forum what mask liners are available.

- Start a thread in cpaptalk asking for help. Subject: Need Help with Mask xxxxxx

- If your mask still has excessive leak, try other masks. Many people report trying several masks before they find one that works well for them.

Note: Links to just some of the mask manufacturers' instructional videos can be found on the forum host's website - https://www.cpap.com/cpap-masks.php and https://www.youtube.com/

- CG
Also, note that there are lots of other masks available ( https://www.cpap.com/cpap-masks/full-face-cpap-mask ). So, if you give your mask the good old college try and still can't get it to work properly, you probably need to try a different mask. If you get to that point, here are some tips on choosing a different mask:
begin looking at the mask descriptions and images at https://www.cpap.com/cpap-masks.php . This is the website of this forum's host.

4. For a newbie, you should select a popular mask that gets high rankings from the reviews. Some people in this forum get excellent usage out of masks that are not popular and do not get good reviews. They might rave about the mask to you. But for a newbie, you want to start with a popular mask with high rankings. After you get some experience, you can experiment with masks that pique your fancy but are not so popular.

5. Once you have a category (nasal or FFM) of masks selected, you can go to that category on CPAP dot com's web page and sort by Biggest Sellers and then by Rating. You can check the ratings and read reviews.

6. When you receive your mask and machine, you should watch the mask manufacturer's videos (On CPAP.com's web page or on youtube.com) for instructions on use and adjustments.

7. If you have any problems using the mask, please start a new thread here and ask for help.

8. It's not unusual to try different masks before settling on one that works well for you. If you find yourself buying a fourth or fifth different mask, the problem may be with the way you are trying to use the masks, instead of the mask itself. Please get help from the experienced forum members.

- ChicagoGranny

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Re: AirTouch F20 is such a major disappointment

Post by zorki1c » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:55 am

Got the Airfit N30i a while back. I like the idea of the cradle nosepiece that doesn’t go into the nostril. I toss and turn quite a bit and with the N30i I kept waking up because of the hiss of leaking air. Eventually I switched to the P30i cushions ( like the P10 cushions ) and the leaks went away.
The cradle nosepiece is a great idea but it doesn’t work if you move around.

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Re: AirTouch F20 is such a major disappointment

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:04 pm

zorki1c wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:55 am
Got the Airfit N30i a while back. I like the idea of the cradle nosepiece that doesn’t go into the nostril. I toss and turn quite a bit and with the N30i I kept waking up because of the hiss of leaking air. Eventually I switched to the P30i cushions ( like the P10 cushions ) and the leaks went away.
The cradle nosepiece is a great idea but it doesn’t work if you move around.
I also prefer the pillows. But, the cradle-design (N30i) works well for many people who are "active" sleepers. The old saw applies - "What doesn't work for one may work well for others."