SoClean 2 with Resmed Airsense 10 with Autoset

Marko2019 · Post by **Marko2019** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:30 am

Thoughts? That's a loaded question.

My advice would be to contact SoClean immediately - they have your money and the warranty clock is ticking.

I believe their stuff is mostly engineered, produced, and dropped shipped directly from China. You may have simply gotten a defective (non-upward compatible) or untested unit.

When you get the new one, just make sure the ozone output level is within FDA requirements for ozone exposure health and safety. The device should be labeled, but I don't think they label it in accordance with the requirements. I've only seen one unit, and it did not have the ozone exposure dose label on it.

Good luck.

M

SemperFiGuy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:01 pm
Howdy,
I recently replaced my Resmed 9 Autoset for a Resmed Airsense 10 with Autoset and purchased the required adapter from SoClean so it would be compatible with my new machine.
Tonight I tried to use the manual button to do a cleaning and the colored lights on the bottom of the unit went on and then immediately off. No error message or anything else.
I have the proper humdifier adapter from Soclean. I hooked everything up the way the manual says to.
Any ideas as to why the manual cycle won't operate. (The timer doesn't won't start a cleaning cycle either.)
Any thoughts ?
Thank you in advance.

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:58 am

I may be mistaken, but in re reading the OP's post, it appears that he has had the So Clean for quite a while and used it successfully with his S9 machine. It's when he started using a Airsense 10 and purchased the So Clean adapter that the problem developed.

jimbud · Post by **jimbud** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:30 am

You know when I catch a post about SoClean early enough, I try to give the poster some kind of warning (Oh you are in trouble now. Or something similar.) to give them a heads up. Like I know Pugsy did in this case. I do not feel as strongly as many do on here so I do not comment further. I have done this twice. Some people probably think I am being mean. Not my intention. Sometimes it actually works and nothing dramatic happens. So I think it is worth a try. I will do it again if the opportunity arises.

Personally, I thought Ronnie looked quite striking in his puff sleeve pirate shirt.

JPB

Guitarist · Post by **Guitarist** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:17 pm

Your all a bunch of Dirty CPAP users

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Just kidding.

Soap and water for me. I clean the humidifier every few days cause I'm anal and I'm a newbie

Those OZONE cleaners scare me for some reason.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:20 pm

Guitarist wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:17 pm
Those OZONE cleaners scare me for some reason.

Not the least of which... they don't *clean* anything at all.

Guitarist · Post by **Guitarist** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:28 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:20 pm

Guitarist wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:17 pm
Those OZONE cleaners scare me for some reason.
Not the least of which... they don't *clean* anything at all.

I don't see how it could clean anything and if there's any sludge in there it's gonna stay in there I would imagine.

and OZONE like WTF.

I think they say don't inhale it in the product description.

My distorted CPAP brain would think there is some still in there the Horror ...lol

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:33 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:20 pm

Guitarist wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:17 pm
Those OZONE cleaners scare me for some reason.
Not the least of which... they don't *clean* anything at all.

Always been one of my major gripes about these kind of machines...they maybe nuke the dirt, grime, snot, slobber but they don't remove it. I would still have to physically remove the crud with soap and hot water...and since that is enough to also nuke germs...why nuke them twice????
Now if they ever come up with a machine that I can tell..."hey machine"..."go wash my mask hose for me" and it gets up and goes to the kitchen or bathroom and does it for me.......I might look at that.

And then there's the ozone gas thing....I personally am not comfortable having a gas like that even remotely being flying around in my bedroom for us to be breathing. I want nothing to do with it.

Now the UV light kind of nuking...not quite as scary but again I still have to wash the crud away first.

But hey.... I used to make mud pie cookies as a kid and eat them and fed them to my friends so I don't worry about dirt germs too much.

TropicalDiver · Post by **TropicalDiver** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:44 pm

Trying to help the OP.

Hook the SoClean up to the old S9 again. Does it work?

If not, you know it is not the setup with the new machine. Instead it is the SoClean (most likely some sort of shutoff mechanism).

If it works on the S9, but not the new machine, then you have something unique about that combo to work through. I would take care looking for kinked tubing and to look for how all of the various SoClean hoses are routed/oriented (is the flow in the correct direction).

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:56 pm

Noclean reminds me of an episode of Mythbusters; where they were challenged
to prove whether or not feces (not the name they used) could be polished.
The conclusion was, it could be polished, but it would still be sh*t.
If Noclean can sanitize snot, boogers, or vomit, maybe they would like to try ca-ca?

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:14 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:56 pm
Noclean reminds me of an episode of Mythbusters; where they were challenged
to prove whether or not feces (not the name they used) could be polished.
The conclusion was, it could be polished, but it would still be sh*t.
If Noclean can sanitize snot, boogers, or vomit, maybe they would like to try ca-ca?

If there's poo in the mask, someone is probably using it wrong... or maybe their cat is displeased with them.

Marko2019 · Post by **Marko2019** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:54 am

I understand the confusion - just trying to help the guy get his money back before it's too late.

Personally, I think these two lawsuits have them in a heap of trouble.

M

LSAT wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:58 am
I may be mistaken, but in re reading the OP's post, it appears that he has had the So Clean for quite a while and used it successfully with his S9 machine. It's when he started using a Airsense 10 and purchased the So Clean adapter that the problem developed.

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:04 am

SemperFiGuy wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:01 pm

Any thoughts ?

Thank you in advance.

Not sure if these may help:

https://youtu.be/kE9z6kxYZSw

https://youtu.be/RXhAcyO3NFU

Even if those videos don't help you, at least they should irritate a few people here.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:29 am

RonS wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:12 pm

Was it working before you made the switch?

No. They never work. No SoClean has ever worked to clean anything except consumers' wallets.

Risks:
The residual smell of ozone may be unpleasant and risky. Ozone exposure is potentially dangerous among those with respiratory conditions. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration describes it as a “toxic gas with no known useful medical application.” The Environmental Protection Agency says that relatively low amounts of ozone can cause shortness of breath and worsen chronic respiratory disease.

In fact, ironically, exposure to it may compromise the body’s ability to fight respiratory infections.

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Ultimately, the available CPAP cleaners and sanitizers seem unlikely to provide additional cleaning capacity beyond standard methods of cleaning with soap and water. There is no evidence that these devices reduce the risk of infection.

These companies also have no financial interest in investigating this possibility. The devices sell well without any such study. This may reveal much about the motivation behind the recent push in direct-to-consumer marketing of the product, beyond the science supporting its use.

A Word From Verywell
Further research may be helpful to determine if these devices have any role in routine CPAP therapy. The risk of infection is so small, and the evidence for benefit so weak, that these devices are not currently recommended. Save your money and buy a lifetime supply of liquid dish soap instead!

https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-you-n ... in-4171650

From a microbiologist with 25 years experience with sterilization and disinfection of equipment and facilities used in the production of sterile pharmaceuticals:

I will give you some facts, and I base the facts on the fact that I am the one who works in the industry of low temperature sterilzation

1. So Clean claims they use the same technology as is used in hospitals. LIE - the hospital ozone sterilizers cost upwards of 100,000.00 and require an O2 farm (a room with 15 to 20 tall O2 cylinders) to provide pure oxygen to extract the ozone. Besides the fact that SoClean lied about this, why on earth do you think a 300.00 device can even come close to what a 100,000.00 device can do. If SoClean was validated to sterilize or even high level disinfect, hospitals would have hundreds of them rather than the 100K devices. The SoClean just does not have the power to do what you think it does.

2. It does not clean. Period. You think it does, place a small dab of peanut butter in your hose and see if it is still there when the cycle is complete. You think this is not a good test, it is the basis of the VA soil test, the test that all medical cleaners must pass or they cannot claim to clean.

3. Amazon reviews - nothing but feel good stories. I have not read one Amazon review that can factually claim that the SoClean kills germs. If you know of one, please post the link because I would like to read it. What is the basis of a 5 star review when all they can go on is they like it? Meaningless.

4. I did own a SoClean on the 30 day trial, when I realized what it was vs. the claims they make I returned it under the 30 day return policy. Why not just get one of the room ozone fans and hang your mask in front of it, they would both do the same thing which is nothing.

I am just repeating the same thing I have typed here about a hundred times; for now on I will just say it is awesome, give the scammers your money, you will love it.

viewtopic/t157842/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... 9#p1210375

SoClean is being sued for False Advertising and other violations of law - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14 ... clean-inc/

Additional resources:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5611769/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3716664/

jsmit86 · Post by **jsmit86** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:54 am

I had seen a lot of advertising for So Clean when I first got my machine.
I almost bit on it, but then I saw about all of issues with Ozone hurting seals, and discoloring masks.

I use baby shampoo on the humidifier, mask parts and the hose once a week.
They seems to be more than enough to keep stuff clean.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:38 am

Soap and water has been measured to kill and REMOVE 99% of microbes.
Only a small percent of microbes are pathogenic--the rest are beneficial or benign.
Dawn is cheap and safe--and works!

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