You say that like it's a joke, but I have occasional insomnia and I don't dare get behind the wheel after a night of poor rest. I take a taxi. Which is a liberty not everyone can take, I understand. The truth is, sleepiness and poor eyesight mean you cannot properly drive. Driving is not a right. The rest of us on the road don't want to pay for your condition too.Arlene1963 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:00 pmI have moderate OSA and have never experienced the classic OSA fatigue or sleepiness. In fact the exact opposite!Goofproof wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 amWhich is the better outcome, a person with Mild Sleep Apnea falls asleep at the wheel and hits a School Bus, killing the driver and 36 children, or a person with Severe Sleep Apnea falls asleep at the wheel and hits a School Bus, killing the driver and 36 children? Is treating Sleep Apnea cost effective?
If not, money saved, treating the Sleep Apnea, After the wreck one less car with a impaired driver, 1 bus, one driver, 36 children, 1 less schoolroom. Does that balance the scales. Can we save everyone without a time machine!Jim
What next? If you have insomnia you can't drive?
If you have T2 diabetes that is poorly controlled you will have your driver's licence yanked? (eyesight issues and all that)
Are we all going to need a doctor's certificate to verify that we have optimal sleep, every night?
How exactly is this state of utopia achieved?
Be careful what you wish for.
12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
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Also, I thank everyone for the serious replies. I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
I know some of you have refuted any witch-hunting, but don't play yourselves, y'all are condescending as hell.
I know some of you have refuted any witch-hunting, but don't play yourselves, y'all are condescending as hell.
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Maybe because there is something else going on or in addition to mild OSA????
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Thank you captain obvious.
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Well...you ask an obvious question so you get an obvious answer.
I didn't know that you already knew the answer or I wouldn't have bothered.
Have a nice day.
the list grows.
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Wait hold on... why is it an obvious question? I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
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smart assed replies tend to get people put on ignore lists...elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 pmWait hold on... why is it an obvious question? I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
Get OSCAR
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: dataq1, clownbell, gearchange, lynninnj, mper!?, DreamDiver, Geer1, almostadoctor, sleepgeek, ajack, stom, mogy, D.H., They often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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Do you use REAL Software to monitor your XPAP progress and do you post it here so others can comment of ways to make it better. If not, how do you determine, your treatment is the best it can be. When you get it correct the treatment is one less thing you have to worry about, Then you can chase other causes, one by one. Jim
Use data to optimize your xPAP treatment!
"The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease." Voltaire
"The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease." Voltaire
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Well you have proven you are an A hole, but cpap even works for them.
You come on here asking for advice and then proceed to insult the best and brightest.
You might try another forum.
Try a different approach.
Might get a different result.
JPB
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Another dancing-zebra thread.
-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
Accounts to put on the foe list: Me. I often post misleading, timewasting stuff.
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but that's enough about them.
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Oscar-Mac
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Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
You said "it could be that Cpap isn't working for me". Sounds interesting, but cpap isn't like a pill that sometimes works better for some but not others. It's a mechanical process, measurable, so if set up properly and tested with software, etc. can show results that are specific... even reproducible.
I just saw this thread tonight for the first time, and saw that experts have been trying to explain stuff and help you, but your attitude stinks, so why should they continue bothering?
I just saw this thread tonight for the first time, and saw that experts have been trying to explain stuff and help you, but your attitude stinks, so why should they continue bothering?
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Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
The problem is that using cpap takes EFFORT.
It is like dancing; practice improves your odds, as does a good attitude.--
There is a kind of zen, that once achieved, it is a beautiful thing.
If you fight it, you will only end up crushing your own toes.
It is like dancing; practice improves your odds, as does a good attitude.--
There is a kind of zen, that once achieved, it is a beautiful thing.
If you fight it, you will only end up crushing your own toes.
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Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
It could be that book you read telling you to take two-hour naps.
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:30 pmWhy are you limiting nap lengths to 15 minutes? Naps are beneficial for up to 2 hours in duration.
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Once again something one says rises up to bite them.ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:57 pmIt could be that book you read telling you to take two-hour naps.
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:30 pmWhy are you limiting nap lengths to 15 minutes? Naps are beneficial for up to 2 hours in duration.
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