Need advise about resumed S9 autoset

cpapguy338 · Post by **cpapguy338** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 am

I've used a cpap years ago with success, lost the weight about ten years ago and didn't need it anymore. Well, the weight is back and so I desperately need a Cpapa again. Been choking, gasping dying at night for months.

I found a barely used resumed S9 with autoset. I need to know if I use the auto set setting, if the machine is self adjustable? I assume that is what this means. My last machine years ago was and this worked well for me.

Also, does this machine have to be preset by a professional, or can I do it myself. I need to know asap as I'm going to buy it right now. I cannot afford to go the whole sleep study, cpap that can only be set at the pharmacy etc. No insurance.

Thank you!

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:42 am

Welcome to the forum.

Yes, the S9 AutoSet has the auto adjusting mode available so that it will auto adjust the pressures as it senses the need.
We do have to help it out by setting an optimal minimum starting point for that auto adjusting.
It can't go from 4 to 12 in the blink of an eye.

Yes, you can set it yourself..no need for a "pro" to do it. Super easy.
Go here and request the clinical/provider manual....it explains how to do the secret handshake to get into the clinical setup menu area
https://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap- ... tup-manual
There are also shortened instructions at the same link but I encourage you to get the complete manual and read it so that you know in more detail what the S9 AutoSet can do for you.

You will need software to use to evaluate your results with the pressures you start with.
I suggest OSCAR...works great with the S9 models.
https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/

For a starting point just to see where your needs might be...gotta start somewhere...
I suggest starting with
Mode.....auto (it has a fixed cpap mode available but it won't auto adjust in that mode)
Minimum pressure....6 cm
Maximum pressure ....20 cm
EPR set to ON full time...and try 2 and see how you like it (comfort feature).

Be sure to erase prior user data from the machine (and SD card if it has one with it already and if not you can get one at Walmart as any generic SD card will work).
There is a place in the clinical set menu area where you can erase prior user data...won't affect total run hours but you will be starting with a clean slate and prior user stuff won't be muddying up your reports.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:44 am

Once you have data using software...see the sticky at the top of the Announcements section "newbies please read"...in it are instructions for how to post data from your software reports if you want member input...as well as examples of what we like to see.
We don't need all the many graphs that OSCAR or SleepyHead will give you to look at.

cpapguy338 · Post by **cpapguy338** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:04 am

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:42 am
Welcome to the forum.

Yes, the S9 AutoSet has the auto adjusting mode available so that it will auto adjust the pressures as it senses the need.
We do have to help it out by setting an optimal minimum starting point for that auto adjusting.
It can't go from 4 to 12 in the blink of an eye.

Yes, you can set it yourself..no need for a "pro" to do it. Super easy.
Go here and request the clinical/provider manual....it explains how to do the secret handshake to get into the clinical setup menu area
https://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap- ... tup-manual
There are also shortened instructions at the same link but I encourage you to get the complete manual and read it so that you know in more detail what the S9 AutoSet can do for you.

You will need software to use to evaluate your results with the pressures you start with.
I suggest OSCAR...works great with the S9 models.
https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/

For a starting point just to see where your needs might be...gotta start somewhere...
I suggest starting with
Mode.....auto (it has a fixed cpap mode available but it won't auto adjust in that mode)
Minimum pressure....6 cm
Maximum pressure ....20 cm
EPR set to ON full time...and try 2 and see how you like it (comfort feature).

Be sure to erase prior user data from the machine (and SD card if it has one with it already and if not you can get one at Walmart as any generic SD card will work).
There is a place in the clinical set menu area where you can erase prior user data...won't affect total run hours but you will be starting with a clean slate and prior user stuff won't be muddying up your reports.

Thank you very much!!!

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:41 am

cpapguy338 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 am
I've used a cpap years ago with success, lost the weight about ten years ago and didn't need it anymore.

Well, obviously you did...

cpapguy338 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 am
Well, the weight is back and so I desperately need a Cpapa again.

And that's why.

cpapguy338 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 am
I found a barely used resumed S9 with autoset. I need to know if I use the auto set setting, if the machine is self adjustable? I assume that is what this means.

Yes, that's what the 'Auto' in 'AutoSet' means.

cpapguy338 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 am
Also, does this machine have to be preset by a professional, or can I do it myself. I need to know asap as I'm going to buy it right now. I cannot afford to go the whole sleep study, cpap that can only be set at the pharmacy etc. No insurance.

Go to apneaboard.com and request a copy of the clinical manual via email through the link at the top of their page.
Yes, it's easy to set the machine.

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:05 pm

Make sure you check the run hours on the machine. If there are more than 9000 hours, I would avoid it. Press the "I"button and turn the dial to see the hours.

cpapguy338 · Post by **cpapguy338** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:36 pm

Ok, got it home, has 1400 hours on it. Can't figure out how to set it in auto mode? And also how to set the auto range from 6-20?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:54 pm

Did you go get the manual?
You have to go into the clinical set up menu area and that involves the secret handshake or combination of button pushing to get into that area.
Once you change the mode to "auto" then the other menu choices for pressure minimum and maximum will also show up but you can't see it unless you are in the setup menu area.
Regular menus won't show it.

cpapguy338 · Post by **cpapguy338** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:03 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:54 pm
Did you go get the manual?
You have to go into the clinical set up menu area and that involves the secret handshake or combination of button pushing to get into that area.
Once you change the mode to "auto" then the other menu choices for pressure minimum and maximum will also show up but you can't see it unless you are in the setup menu area.
Regular menus won't show it.

Would that be found with the original manual that comes with the unit? As of now, the unit seems to be set to settle in at 11.

zonker · Post by **zonker** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:12 pm

cpapguy338 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:03 pm

Would that be found with the original manual that comes with the unit? As of now, the unit seems to be set to settle in at 11.

as palerider mentioned-
"Go to apneaboard.com and request a copy of the clinical manual via email through the link at the top of their page.
Yes, it's easy to set the machine."

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:31 pm

cpapguy338 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:03 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:54 pm
Did you go get the manual?
You have to go into the clinical set up menu area and that involves the secret handshake or combination of button pushing to get into that area.
Once you change the mode to "auto" then the other menu choices for pressure minimum and maximum will also show up but you can't see it unless you are in the setup menu area.
Regular menus won't show it.
Would that be found with the original manual that comes with the unit? As of now, the unit seems to be set to settle in at 11.

Don't know, does it say "clinical guide" on the cover of the manual?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:42 pm

Usually the manual that comes with the machine says "user" on it.
There is a reason I suggested going and getting the clinical/provider manual...it actually says "provider" I think.....that is because there is information in the provider manual that isn't included in the user manual and one of the things is how to get to the clinical setup menu area where you can change the settings.

cpapguy338 · Post by **cpapguy338** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:19 am

So last night was my first night trying out the unit. My mask is too small (working on getting the right size now) but it still worked out pretty well I think. Here is how it went.

1. Took me about 45 minutes to fall asleep. My unit is set to auto.
2. For the first time in I do not know how long, I slept for 4 hours straight without waking up about ten times, grabbing for the water or choking, etc. After waking up, I fell back to sleep for another 90 minutes. So in total I got 5.5 hours with the mask on.
3. I feel totally energized, relaxed and for the first time in years, like I wasn't fighting some angry giant all night. Hard to explain, but just a refreshed relaxed feeling. My thoughts are, over the years, I've forgotten what it's like to feel rested. Despite only 5.5 hours of sleep, I felt no need to lay in bed and try and get, "more sleep" I just woke up and got up. My mouth was a bit dry at times, as I have to mouth breathe, but in no way like it usually is. It was tolerable.

4. The unit reading were as follows.

6.5 hours of use
pressure was 9.8
AHI 2.4
air leak 35 ( a better fitting mask should help this)

Any input or advise on the data would be great.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:38 am

The leak number shown on the LCD screen is what we call a 95% number and 95% numbers just mean it is where you were AT OR BELOW for 95% of the night. It is NOT an overall average and it is NOT where you spent 95% of the night. People often forget or don't know about the "or below" part of the definition.
For a first night fighting a mask that is likely too small....excellent results and more importantly you feel the good results.

Good job.

I will get with you later about that mask I hope I still have.

Do you normally breathe through your nose just fine during the day or do you have chronic nasal congestion issues that make it mandatory that you breathe through your mouth and just have to have a full face mask?

cpapguy338 · Post by **cpapguy338** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:53 am

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:38 am
The leak number shown on the LCD screen is what we call a 95% number and 95% numbers just mean it is where you were AT OR BELOW for 95% of the night. It is NOT an overall average and it is NOT where you spent 95% of the night. People often forget or don't know about the "or below" part of the definition.
For a first night fighting a mask that is likely too small....excellent results and more importantly you feel the good results.

Good job.

I will get with you later about that mask I hope I still have.

Do you normally breathe through your nose just fine during the day or do you have chronic nasal congestion issues that make it mandatory that you breathe through your mouth and just have to have a full face mask?

I have never fully figured out my sinuses. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I have a sneaking suspicion, I've trained myself to mouth breathe as a result of them being stuffy half the time. Now stuff, not as in drainage, or mucus etc, they just seem to swell shut. It's strange as sometimes throughout the night I can breath easily through them, other times, nothing is passing through. Like they are sealed shut. So, yes, I feel a full mask will work best for me. I might try some nasal masks, but I'm pretty sure, I'll awaken to an open mouth with cpap air flowing out.

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