OT:Identifying Internet Trolls

OP forgot something.

I thank OP for the glorious explanation from some rube with a Phd telling me what they think a troll is, I will have to respectfully disagree.

I live in an online environment. It is part of my job. I monitor people, including "trolls", along with actual hateful and violent people. Again, part of my job. I vehemently disagree with the findings of that article, which as far as I can tell, is nothing more than someone who doesn't understand why "trolls" do what they do, and instead just lump them into groups, such as "sadists" and "psychopaths".

Both the OP and the phd person would be termed a "normie" in my world, because they don't get it. Culture has changed right underneath their feet and they're lost.

"Trolls" are fairly normal people, usually younger, that engage in conduct that simply makes them laugh. Nothing more. They mean no long term harm and simply enjoy taking people out of their comfort zones. They are not members of hate groups, terror organizations, or psychopaths. Let me say again, OP and that phd clown simply do not understand the younger generations, so they are quick to label something they don't understand as something that makes sense to them.

With that said, it's all for naught, as the majority of the people here that the OP is claiming are "trolls", aren't. Palerider, AKA Public Enemy numero uno is NOT a "troll". How do I know this? Because Palerider, AKA Public Enemy numero uno, actually provides extremely helpful and relevant information. "Trolls" do no such thing. Also, we have to consider motive. The pure motive for "trolls" is jollies, whereas Palerider very well may just be sort of an ass, and that's ok, I like him anyway. He has no real motive, he just tends to speak what's on his mind, and I can respect that.

Anyway, OP, you're wrong, the phd person you used as some form of an appeal to authority fallacy is wrong, and your entire conclusion is wrong. Step out of the bubble and you'll see that.

Edit: It seems that society has taken a liking to immediately label someone who simply disagrees with them as a "troll". In that case, I am a "troll" in their world, as is my 15 year old daughter, because she regularly engages in conversations and deliberations in which she disagrees with people and astutely argues her point - because I taught her critical thinking skills. The reality of it is, the people who are unwilling to even engage in conversation act in ways that closely resemble the actions of a fantasy "troll": attack first, think later.

Thanks for lesson on how to identify Trolls, I think I can now recognize them. I thought a lesson in identifying the Three Billy Goats Gruff would compliment it, as they are masters at vanquishing troll.

Identifying the Three Billy Goats Gruff

What is a Billy Goat Gruff? (taken from Wikipedia and its as good as any definition out there and good for my purposes here):

Three male goats, sometimes identified as a youngster, father and grandfather, but more often described as brothers. In other adaptations, there is a baby or child goat, mama goat and papa goat. "Gruff" was used as their family name in the earliest English translation, by Dasent; the original Norwegian version used the name "Bruse".




How to identify them?

1. They are Billy Goats
2. There are three of them
3. They are gruff

How to deal with them?

1. Remember, these Billy Goats are some truly difficult goats.
2. It is troll vanquishing that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is let them.
3. Its been said many times - Allow them to vanquish the trolls.

Finally, and this is a serious suggestion - Maybe a study should be done on the propensity of trolling vanquishing by gruff Billy Goats due to lack of grazing land.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 8:55 am

Thanks for lesson on how to identify Trolls, I think I can now recognize them. I thought a lesson in identifying the Three Billy Goats Gruff would compliment it, as they are masters at vanquishing troll.

Identifying the Three Billy Goats Gruff

What is a Billy Goat Gruff? (taken from Wikipedia and its as good as any definition out there and good for my purposes here):

Three male goats, sometimes identified as a youngster, father and grandfather, but more often described as brothers. In other adaptations, there is a baby or child goat, mama goat and papa goat. "Gruff" was used as their family name in the earliest English translation, by Dasent; the original Norwegian version used the name "Bruse".




How to identify them?

1. They are Billy Goats
2. There are three of them
3. They are gruff

How to deal with them?

1. Remember, these Billy Goats are some truly difficult goats.
2. It is troll vanquishing that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is let them.
3. Its been said many times - Allow them to vanquish the trolls.

Finally, and this is a serious suggestion - Maybe a study should be done on the propensity of trolling vanquishing by gruff Billy Goats due to lack of grazing land.

Once again you win Internet post of the day. Thanks for making me laugh!

Trolls are not welcome anywhere, and goats are smelly--unless on the menu

Don't Pick The Flowers, The Pansies Cry! Jim

Feeding Trolls, may cause them to get Diabetes and Heart Failure, We wouldn't want anything bad like that to befall them. Would We!

@Midwest_non_sleeper : thank you for the proper explanation of trolls, you put it more eloquently than I could ever do. Being that I've been on a few message board communities, including a being a moderator for one, I can agree trolls usually do what they do for humor, or as they called it "for the lulz." It wasn't to cause harm but minor grief (and at times give the moderators a laugh)

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 am

Palerider very well may just be sort of an ass,

HEY! I resemble that remark! hrmph.

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 am

resemble the actions of a fantasy "troll": attack first, think later.

We're lucky if they ever think at all. :sigh:

Wait. I'm confused.

Do I get to be one of the Three Bully Troll Gruffs around here, or not?

And if so, do I get some kind of ID with that?

jnk... wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 3:34 pm

Wait. I'm confused.

Do I get to be one of the Three Bully Troll Gruffs around here, or not?

And if so, do I get some kind of ID with that?

How about all the Tin Cans you can eat! Jim

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 am

my 15 year old daughter,

Ah. Now I know why your C.O. wouldn't approve your going undercover as a bad guy in one of Dog Slobber's pictures on the Internet. Good call. Dads and moms should only be in good-guy pictures.

Thanks for your post. And for being almost as long-winded as I am.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 7:34 pm

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 8:31 am

my 15 year old daughter,

Ah. Now I know why your C.O. wouldn't approve your going undercover as a bad guy in one of Dog Slobber's pictures on the Internet. Good call. Dads and moms should only be in good-guy pictures.

Thanks for your post. And for being almost as long-winded as I am.

I have not yet begun to figh....wait, wrong quote for this situation I think, I'm not being asked to surrender.

And did you just call me long-winded? WELL I NEVER! Hrmph!