Eliminating bullies and rude postings.

First off I want to state that when I first joined this board it became invaluable to me in educating myself to the point my CPAP therapy is the best it can be. I've took a lot away. I've tried to, when I can give back. I'm not the type to hang out on bulletin boards frequently. There a few I visit on occasion, cpaptalk.com being one of them.

If you find a particular poster offensive it is easy to eliminate them from your cpaptalk.com universe. Here's the step by step guide.

Click down arrow next to your username.
Click User Control Panel.
Click the Friends & Foes tab.
Click Manage Foes.
Then enter the user name of who you want to eliminate.
Save your changes.

That user is now invisible. None of their posts show up in any thread you view. They are gone. Poof.

I added my first this morning.

IMO, starting another, of many threads on this subject, is offensive.

Or, you could just think for yourself and not read stuff you aren't equipped to digest. Jim

Here we go again. The legitimate suggestion of a forum member is attacked.

bombayone wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 10:37 am

Here we go again. The legitimate suggestion of a forum member is attacked.

He's suggesting what has always existed...this has been out there forever.

bombayone wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 10:37 am

Here we go again. The legitimate suggestion of a forum member is attacked.

And here we go again someone pointing out something that they call an "attack" and it's not an attack.
It's simply an alternative point of view stated bluntly. It's not an attack on anyone. His suggestion is just as legitimate as the OP's suggestion.

You are wrong in this instance in your desire to be the forum morality police and trying to point out something that doesn't need pointing out....
and if in fact someone did "attack" someone...news flash...we can all see it...we don't need you constantly pointing it out.

Why do people continually have to bring up this sort of stuff anyway?
Most of us recognize a shitty remark when we see it...do we really need to continually have it brought up?

Thanks for you comments. The logic that you used to question the need for my comment would also apply to the previous comments that I was responding to. Why is there a need to question the need of a comment in a caustic tone? I appreciate the difficulty of your job and thank you for your efforts.

Pugsy, can you please ban 40 Winks for hurting my feelings by looking at me a little funny?

bombayone wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 11:01 am

Thanks for you comments. The logic that you used to question the need for my comment would also apply to the previous comments that I was responding to. Why is there a need to question the need of a comment in a caustic tone? I appreciate the difficulty of your job and thank you for your efforts.

What caustic tone ? It was a legitimate statement. Why does everything come across as being harsh, caustic or an attack? People make comments. They don't have the time, energy or desire to put flowers on it. Should I put a smiley face at the end of all my messages to provide intent that I'm not intending my post to be mean or an attack. there you go see I am being friendly.

(Grumbles to self... who the hell thought up these little faces anyway and what the heck does the face with the sunglass
mean and what is the significance of the green guy ? This old dino needs a translator)

bombayone wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 11:01 am

Thanks for you comments. The logic that you used to question the need for my comment would also apply to the previous comments that I was responding to. Why is there a need to question the need of a comment in a caustic tone? I appreciate the difficulty of your job and thank you for your efforts.

Because we can't legislate how someone speaks as to caustic or sugar coated...we just can't. You have been here long enough to understand Johnny's feelings about any form of censorship...Unless someone is horribly, horribly bad for the forum as a whole....he's not going to step in and tell someone that they shouldn't be so blunt. It's just not going to happen and if people find Johnny's way of doing or not doing something a problem...then they don't have to be here. I am sorry but that's the cold hard fact of this forum's life.

Some people just always speak bluntly..it's just the way they talk and a fact of life.
And it's not really someone else's job to try to change someone because they think someone was caustic or rude to someone...
In all honesty if 40winks has a problem with what someone says and what he might perceive the tone being...that's between those 2 people. It's not your job to step up and call someone out for something they said that YOU perceive the tone being caustic or rude or actually plain shitty. It's entirely possible that the person saying something you don't like the tone to...didn't even mean it that way.

We can't legislate tones just like we can't legislate how someone perceives the tone to be. Impossible job.
I have said stuff to people and I really honestly didn't mean it as snarky or hateful or anything like that. I was just bluntly stating the truth but I have hurt people's feeling because they read into my words something that was never intended.
Over the forum...we can't read people's minds.

No one here said the OP's idea was bad. No one attacked him personally. No one called him any names.
People did state alternative viewpoints...they get to do that...when you post on the forum you open yourself up for others posting their viewpoints.
And Carolyn herself has said this...."if you disagree with what someone says...don't attack the messenger...attack the message."
No one attacked 40winks here...they did sort of disagree with his message though and the message itself was sort of attacked and alternative options were stated....and that's within their right.

In all honesty I really didn't see the need for anyone to tell us to use the Foe list and how to do and state they just used it for the first time. I have a mile long Foe list myself...I don't feel the need to advertise it or pop on the forum and say...OMG I just added another person to my Foe list. But that's me.
If someone else wants to talk about it...that's fine and I will defend their right to talk about it.

And yes...I know that fairly often the remarks are intentionally caustic and rude and I cringe when I see them...and make no mistake I do pretty much read all of them but Johnny has made it clear that people get to talk that way here. He simply loathes any censorship in any fashion and it takes something really, really, really bad to cause some sort of action.
When you all pile on about so and so said something ugly ...all it does is make a bad situation worse...adds fuel to an already ugly fire that I can't do anything about in the first place.
Every single one of us here can spot ugliness...I don't need a half a dozen people piling on to point out the ugly...and I can't do anything about it and the piling on people are just making things worse. You keep stoking the fire that if people would just shut up...would die out sooner.

Johnny lets the ugly happen in hopes that people will cool off and come to their senses and play nice together. It's his belief in humanity and his belief for the people on the forum.
We all know this...not a big surprise...like I have said many times....it's his sandbox and if we don't like the rules or lack of rules in the sandbox then maybe it's time to find another sandbox. I don't 100% hold to his point of view about letting the ugly hopefully die on its own because I think some people just relish in stirring up trouble.....but I am here at his leisure to enforce HIS sandbox rules. Not anyone else's. There is no majority rules thing here...It's essentially a dictatorship and guess who the boss is.

No one is going to change Johnny and I still can't understand why people try.

Thank you for your explanation. You are a true professional and a caring person. Keep up the good work. You are benefiting many people’s health.

I missed a few days.
Looks like some positive developments have occured.

Too bad there isn't a foe button for entire threads.
Too bad one can not foe yourself for select persons.

But on the bright side one can NOT open threads one doesn't want to read. and one can foe a person.
I just wish the foe button worked when one was not logged on.

Guess I will have to log on before reading any posts from here on out.
There that should about do it for this one.
JPB

PS : Anyone can do this, not just me.

jimbud wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 11:56 am

I missed a few days.
Looks like some positive developments have occured.

Too bad there isn't a foe button for entire threads.
Too bad one can not foe yourself for select persons.

But on the bright side one can NOT open threads one doesn't want to read. and one can foe a person.
I just wish the foe button worked when one was not logged on.

Guess I will have to log on before reading any posts from here on out.
There that should about do it for this one.
JPB

PS : Anyone can do this, not just me.

We are all given the Mass Foe Button, it resides in our Brain, the problem is instead of using it as intended, we think we have the Right to Control what everyone else thinks, and Does, it doesn't work that way. Like the Cop Say's: "You have the Right to Remain Silent", but many don't have the Sense To Do So!

Spring is here, maybe we need more outside time planting flowers. Jim

Goofproof wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2019 12:35 pm

. . . more outside time planting flowers. Jim

Could someone please ban Jim for trying to kill me; he knows full well just how bad my allergies are this time of year!

To me, using the foe button is like being an ostrich, sticking your head in the sand. You already know (or should after the first 2-3 posts someone makes) that you don't want to hear what someone says... so don't read it. But if you come across them in another thread, can't you be grown up about it and just move on, not start some new mess? Or do you like messes? Or being in the sand?