Sleep study costs and expectations

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Sun May 19, 2019 11:46 am

Here's the past 3 nights:

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:21 pm

Can cholesterol meds mess with sleep cycles?
I take Fenofibrate.

The last few nights look decent to me. Even a few nights over 6hrs which is very rare. But I still feel like I got no sleep when I wake up. Maybe it's my imagination but sometimes it feels like I'm not all the way asleep but more like in a state somewhere between asleep and awake. It's as if I'm a VERY light sleeper now when I've been a very heavy sleeper my entire life. It's like I can still hear myself thinking when I'm asleep. I feel like I'm never falling into deep sleep.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:24 pm

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:21 pm
Can cholesterol meds mess with sleep cycles?
I take Fenofibrate.

Are you experiencing any of the known side effects ( https://www.rxlist.com/fenofibrate-side ... m#overview )?

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:50 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:24 pm

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:21 pm
Can cholesterol meds mess with sleep cycles?
I take Fenofibrate.
Are you experiencing any of the known side effects ( https://www.rxlist.com/fenofibrate-side ... m#overview )?

No. Not really experiencing any of the listed side effects.
When I first got them I read everything and didn’t see anything about sleep issues. I just checked the link you provided and also saw nothing. The trusted FDA says no so I suppose I got my answer.

Based on my charts above, would you make any further adjustments to the machine? Would you say those nights look good?

Spot123 · Post by **Spot123** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:54 am

I'm not an expert, but the leak chart indicates a leak from the minute you start therapy, which I don't think is normal. I just opened my charts and on mine, I see nothing on the chart, then a spike, then nothing, then a spike, etc. Do you sense a leak anywhere? Perhaps that is interfering with the machine's operation? You are starting at a minimum of 12 it's not increasing much from there. Is it worth trying to lower a little, to 11.5 to see if the leaks decrease? Especially with a pillow mask, I think leak rates should be lower than yours.

Did you ever get that camera?

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:30 am

The leak level is very small and shouldn't be interfering with the CPAP therapy or the data reported.

But, I wonder about that small leak. Are you getting dry eyes from the leak?

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:21 am

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:30 am
The leak level is very small and shouldn't be interfering with the CPAP therapy or the data reported.

But, I wonder about that small leak. Are you getting dry eyes from the leak?

No dry eyes that I’ve noticed. The only eye annoyance comes from the p10 straps being too close.

I have yet to get a cam and video myself. I still have no idea about the leaks. I generally only look for the gray areas of “large leaks”.

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:25 am

Spot123 wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:54 am
I'm not an expert, but the leak chart indicates a leak from the minute you start therapy, which I don't think is normal. I just opened my charts and on mine, I see nothing on the chart, then a spike, then nothing, then a spike, etc. Do you sense a leak anywhere? Perhaps that is interfering with the machine's operation? You are starting at a minimum of 12 it's not increasing much from there. Is it worth trying to lower a little, to 11.5 to see if the leaks decrease? Especially with a pillow mask, I think leak rates should be lower than yours.

Did you ever get that camera?

Beats me. It looks like I have a steady leak rate of about 8,0 from the minute the machine turns on. Are you saying yours is 0? I always assumed the 8.0 leak was simply the mask exhaust.

zonker · Post by **zonker** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:28 am

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:25 am

Beats me. It looks like I have a steady leak rate of about 8,0 from the minute the machine turns on. Are you saying yours is 0? I always assumed the 8.0 leak was simply the mask exhaust.

i have the same rig as yours and have zero leaks. so, no, it's not an exhaust thing.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:37 am

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:28 am
i have the same rig as yours and have zero leaks. so, no, it's not an exhaust thing.

The leak is so steady at 8.0 for hours/nights, that I wonder if there is a small leak in a connector or a pinhole in the hose.

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:18 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:37 am

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:28 am
i have the same rig as yours and have zero leaks. so, no, it's not an exhaust thing.
The leak is so steady at 8.0 for hours/nights, that I wonder if there is a small leak in a connector or a pinhole in the hose.

Oh dear. This is a bit of a shock to me. Definitely messing with my head now.

It’s a fairly new setup. I had to buy brand new mask and hose a few months ago after the dog mistook it for a chew toy.
I’ll go back a few months to when I had my previous P10 and hose and see if I had the 8 leak rate.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:31 pm

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:18 pm
Oh dear. This is a bit of a shock to me. Definitely messing with my head now.

Well, it's a small leak that shouldn't affect the good therapy your reports are showing. However,

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:18 pm
I’ll go back a few months to when I had my previous P10 and hose and see if I had the 8 leak rate.

... I'm like you in that I would want to know why it is there.

Sluggish · Post by **Sluggish** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:36 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:37 am

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:28 am
i have the same rig as yours and have zero leaks. so, no, it's not an exhaust thing.
The leak is so steady at 8.0 for hours/nights, that I wonder if there is a small leak in a connector or a pinhole in the hose.

I think you nailed it. I went back in the charts and there is a noticeable difference after I got my replacement setup. I have no idea where the leak is or if I should even bother trying to find it. Can I just leave it and replace everything later when It wears out more? I mean does a leak that small make a difference?

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:38 pm

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:36 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:37 am

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:28 am
i have the same rig as yours and have zero leaks. so, no, it's not an exhaust thing.
The leak is so steady at 8.0 for hours/nights, that I wonder if there is a small leak in a connector or a pinhole in the hose.
I think you nailed it. I went back in the charts and there is a noticeable difference after I got my replacement setup. I have no idea where the leak is or if I should even bother trying to find it. Can I just leave it and replace everything later when It wears out more? I mean does a leak that small make a difference?

a leak of that size doesn't matter to the machine, and as long as it's not disturbing your sleep, it's nothing to worry about.

zoocrewphoto · Post by **zoocrewphoto** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:16 pm

Sluggish wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:25 am

Spot123 wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:54 am
I'm not an expert, but the leak chart indicates a leak from the minute you start therapy, which I don't think is normal. I just opened my charts and on mine, I see nothing on the chart, then a spike, then nothing, then a spike, etc. Do you sense a leak anywhere? Perhaps that is interfering with the machine's operation? You are starting at a minimum of 12 it's not increasing much from there. Is it worth trying to lower a little, to 11.5 to see if the leaks decrease? Especially with a pillow mask, I think leak rates should be lower than yours.

Did you ever get that camera?
Beats me. It looks like I have a steady leak rate of about 8,0 from the minute the machine turns on. Are you saying yours is 0? I always assumed the 8.0 leak was simply the mask exhaust.

Respironics machines will include the exhaust in the graph, while Resmed ignores it and only shows the extra leak. Like the others mentioned, sounds like a pinhole somewhere. Unless it gets big or bothers you, I wouldn't worry about. Just make sure you have a spare of everything already on hand (should do that anyway). So, if you do suddenly have a larger hole, you don't have to wait for new supplies to arrive.

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