A Mitochondriac

HoseCrusher · Post by **HoseCrusher** » Wed May 01, 2019 2:28 pm

The hypothesis that modern western medicine uses to treat illness is being questioned. What happened to energy?

Doug Wallace summarizes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByNjOR-CxVk

grayghost4 · Post by **grayghost4** » Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm

I need about 10 years of microbiology to begin to understand your link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Wed May 01, 2019 9:41 pm

grayghost4 wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2019 8:32 pm
I need about 10 years of microbiology to begin to understand your link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w

Add another 30 years to find something to put it to use to improve my health.

HoseCrusher · Post by **HoseCrusher** » Fri May 03, 2019 1:01 pm

I don't have the depth or breadth that Wallace has, but I may be able to shed a little light on what I think he is saying.

Bear with me and please excuse my illustrations...

Somewhere around the 1800's modern medicine started. You fell off of your horse and had pain in your arm. Through careful examination it was discovered that your arm was broken. Treatment was started and biochemistry was initiated to help.

Now we have a hypothesis. If a part of the anatomy hurts, focus on that and heal the patient.

About the same time Darwin and Mendel were running around talking about survival of the fittest and how characteristics were passed on from one generation to another.

At this time a jerk walks into town and causes a raucous. Upon further study it is observed that not only is this person a jerk, but his parents, and their parents, and their parents were all jerks. It seems obvious that the jerk gene has been passed down and is being expressed in this person. The biochemical industry responds by adding chemicals in an effort to round out the jerk.

This approach worked reasonably well until around the mid 1900's. Then the focus shifted to heart disease. In the 1970's the focus shifted to cancer. The traditional hypothesis was loosing ground in its effectiveness.

Currently we have a long list of illnesses as Wallace shows on the first slide.

After throwing billions of dollars and years of research into this, we don't seem to be winning.

Wallace reflects back on Newton. Mass is inert. To move mass you need energy.

When you step on a scale you discover you have mass. You are constantly in motion so there must be energy involved. The question arises What would happen if that energy was impaired?

An example...

Let's say some aliens take over the farm down the road. They came to study humans and don't know much about them. The decide to go into town and jump in the truck.

The truck does fine around the farm and on the side roads, but it just can't keep up on the highway. Arriving in town they decide this needs to be fixed.

The first place the come across is a tire store. They explain their problem and the guy comes out and immediately notices that their tires are worn and suggests they be replaced (anatomical approach). They get new tires and go on their way.

They notice that handling is improved but they still can't keep up on the highway.

The next place they pull into is a used car lot. They go in and explain their issue. The guy comes out and upon seeing the truck, throws his hands up and says what do you expect? It a Ford. If you want power you need a GMC. (genealogical approach).

Now ready to purchase a new truck they go around the corner and actually find a real mechanic. After hearing the story about lost power he mentions that the problem must be with the engine power plant (mitochondrial approach). He runs some diagnostics and tells them the the twin turbos are siezed, the full filter is clogged, and most likely the injectors are fouled. The decide to have the repairs made and drive off to find that power has been restored.

As modern humans involved daily with vehicles, we are quick to jump on engine problems and recognize the key component that the engine plays in the vehicle. Modern medicine seems to know there is an engine in the body but since it doesn't fit the anatomical or genealogical hypothesis, they tend to ignore it.

Wallace points out that anatomy plus genealogy but without energy equals a corpse.

Perhaps it is time to incorporate a biophysical and quantum physical approach to illness along with the current biochemical approach.

Does that help?

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Fri May 03, 2019 1:21 pm

Oy very.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Fri May 03, 2019 1:24 pm

HoseCrusher wrote: ↑
Fri May 03, 2019 1:01 pm
Does that help?

Yes. I'm selling the Ford.

Bookit · Post by **Bookit** » Fri May 03, 2019 1:49 pm

Thanks Hosecrusher. That does help.

I have thought for awhile that medicine is missing something big when they can't explain fibromialgia, chronic fatigue, and other "autoimmune" diseases. Those things are very real to the person suffering from them. But because medicine can't see it through the current lenses of anatomy and genetics, doctors tend to tell patients it is all in their head.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Fri May 03, 2019 2:06 pm

Medicine is evolving.
Sadly, some big issues still evade them.
Cancer, fibromyalgia, autism, alzheimers, birth defects, to name a few.
The longer we live and the more of us there are--the more things will crop up.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Fri May 03, 2019 3:32 pm

HoseCrusher wrote: ↑
Fri May 03, 2019 1:01 pm
I don't have the depth or breadth that Wallace has, but I may be able to shed a little light on what I think he is saying.

Bear with me and please excuse my illustrations...

Somewhere around the 1800's modern medicine started. You fell off of your horse and had pain in your arm. Through careful examination it was discovered that your arm was broken. Treatment was started and biochemistry was initiated to help.

Now we have a hypothesis. If a part of the anatomy hurts, focus on that and heal the patient.

About the same time Darwin and Mendel were running around talking about survival of the fittest and how characteristics were passed on from one generation to another.

At this time a jerk walks into town and causes a raucous. Upon further study it is observed that not only is this person a jerk, but his parents, and their parents, and their parents were all jerks. It seems obvious that the jerk gene has been passed down and is being expressed in this person. The biochemical industry responds by adding chemicals in an effort to round out the jerk.

This approach worked reasonably well until around the mid 1900's. Then the focus shifted to heart disease. In the 1970's the focus shifted to cancer. The traditional hypothesis was loosing ground in its effectiveness.

Currently we have a long list of illnesses as Wallace shows on the first slide.

After throwing billions of dollars and years of research into this, we don't seem to be winning.

Wallace reflects back on Newton. Mass is inert. To move mass you need energy.

When you step on a scale you discover you have mass. You are constantly in motion so there must be energy involved. The question arises What would happen if that energy was impaired?

An example...

Let's say some aliens take over the farm down the road. They came to study humans and don't know much about them. The decide to go into town and jump in the truck.

The truck does fine around the farm and on the side roads, but it just can't keep up on the highway. Arriving in town they decide this needs to be fixed.

The first place the come across is a tire store. They explain their problem and the guy comes out and immediately notices that their tires are worn and suggests they be replaced (anatomical approach). They get new tires and go on their way.

They notice that handling is improved but they still can't keep up on the highway.

The next place they pull into is a used car lot. They go in and explain their issue. The guy comes out and upon seeing the truck, throws his hands up and says what do you expect? It a Ford. If you want power you need a GMC. (genealogical approach).

Now ready to purchase a new truck they go around the corner and actually find a real mechanic. After hearing the story about lost power he mentions that the problem must be with the engine power plant (mitochondrial approach). He runs some diagnostics and tells them the the twin turbos are siezed, the full filter is clogged, and most likely the injectors are fouled. The decide to have the repairs made and drive off to find that power has been restored.

As modern humans involved daily with vehicles, we are quick to jump on engine problems and recognize the key component that the engine plays in the vehicle. Modern medicine seems to know there is an engine in the body but since it doesn't fit the anatomical or genealogical hypothesis, they tend to ignore it.

Wallace points out that anatomy plus genealogy but without energy equals a corpse.

Perhaps it is time to incorporate a biophysical and quantum physical approach to illness along with the current biochemical approach.

Does that help?

It is also possible, that he doesn't have a Jerk Gene, he was a product of a Jerk Family and took being a Jerk as normal behavior, odd's are he lived long enough to breed, insuring the next generation of Jerks. Nature vs Nurture, only hope is Natural Selection runs faster, before breeding takes place. Jim

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