Positional Therapy

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:29 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:25 pm
Studies show, most experts believe that weasel words are used to give a false sense of authority. Some argue that those who always use such tactics are being dishonest, but probably the most common reason is; ignorance of actual data.

And a study of this thread shows that nobody so far has indicated a minimum length for what they consider a "full report." Time for ya'll, you, zonker and CG to put up or shut up.

I'm not an expert on this, nor are most here, and I'm going based on my experience. So I can easily be wrong on some things. But if y'all are going to say "that's not a full report" then you need to say what is. And so far, I'm not seeing anyone doing that with any specificity. None of you three have done that. So you three can shout "weasel words" all you want, but you are weaseling by omission.

zonker · Post by **zonker** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:36 pm

Stom wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:29 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:25 pm
Studies show, most experts believe that weasel words are used to give a false sense of authority. Some argue that those who always use such tactics are being dishonest, but probably the most common reason is; ignorance of actual data.
And a study of this thread shows that nobody so far has indicated a minimum length for what they consider a "full report." Time for ya'll, you, zonker and CG to put up or shut up.

erm, uh....all *I* did was post a helpful definition of weasel words. i don't get involved in technical conversations because i know squat.

and it seems to me that dog slobber was doing the same, but actually taking the time to write out in words that defined the phrase weasel words.

lighten up, friend.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:39 pm

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:36 pm
erm, uh....all *I* did was post a helpful definition of weasel words. i don't get involved in technical conversations because i know squat.

and it seems to me that dog slobber was doing the same, but actually taking the time to write out in words that defined the phrase weasel words.

lighten up, friend.

You jumped on the dog pile.

zonker · Post by **zonker** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:41 pm

Stom wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:39 pm

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:36 pm
erm, uh....all *I* did was post a helpful definition of weasel words. i don't get involved in technical conversations because i know squat.

and it seems to me that dog slobber was doing the same, but actually taking the time to write out in words that defined the phrase weasel words.

lighten up, friend.
You jumped on the dog pile.

that was not my intent.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:48 pm

zonker wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:41 pm
that was not my intent.

Ok, but I hope you can see why multiple people jumping on my post, with none of them offering any specifics about what exactly constitutes a full report, isn't actually answering the question of whether my suggestion for a "full report" was reasonable, nor whether the 7 page report I received was a "full report" (report, not raw data) that can accurately be described as "full" or "relatively full".

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:09 pm

Stom wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:48 pm
isn't actually answering the question of whether my suggestion for a "full report" was reasonable, nor whether the 7 page report I received was a "full report"

Now you are trying to skunk out by claiming to say one thing when you actually said another. You did not say "full report". You said "full study" -

Stom wrote:Definitely get a **full** copy of the sleep study, including the charts.

That's where I stepped in to correct you.

A study done in a lab under AASM guidelines is huge. The report is a summary of the study.

Stom · Post by **Stom** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:12 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:09 pm

Stom wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:48 pm
isn't actually answering the question of whether my suggestion for a "full report" was reasonable, nor whether the 7 page report I received was a "full report"
Now you are trying to skunk out by claiming to say one thing when you actually said another. You did not say "full report". You said "full study" -

Stom wrote:Definitely get a **full** copy of the sleep study, including the charts.
That's where I stepped in to correct you.

A study done in a lab under AASM guidelines is huge. The report is a summary of the study.

Ok, thank you. That is a useful clarification.

Dog Slobber · Post by **Dog Slobber** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:12 pm

Stom wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:29 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:25 pm
Studies show, most experts believe that weasel words are used to give a false sense of authority. Some argue that those who always use such tactics are being dishonest, but probably the most common reason is; ignorance of actual data.
And a study of this thread shows that nobody so far has indicated a minimum length for what they consider a "full report." Time for ya'll, you, zonker and CG to put up or shut up.

I'm not an expert on this, nor are most here, and I'm going based on my experience. So I can easily be wrong on some things. But if y'all are going to say "that's not a full report" then you need to say what is. And so far, I'm not seeing anyone doing that with any specificity. None of you three have done that. So you three can shout "weasel words" all you want, but you are weaseling by omission.

You know what's similar in sentiment to weasel words. Non-apology apologies. A completely hypothetical example of a non-apology apology would be:

hypothetical wrote:I'm sorry that you were not able to see the obvious parody in my previous post.*

* The above statement is hypothetical. Names, characters, businesses, places, events, locales, and incidents are either the products of the author's imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.

Chris8243 · Post by **Chris8243** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:00 pm

danb1996 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:36 pm
Hi guys.

I am only 22, but I went to the sleep clinic a few months back and my sleep doc told me I had mild sleep apnea. However, in my study I slept on my back to avoid disconnecting the various wires. I got the prescription a little while later and it said I have moderate sleep apnea. Why would the doctor tell me I have mild?

This only concerns me because I am not comfortable using my CPAP device, and am considering just sleeping on my side from now on.

If I really have mild apnea on my back, would side sleeping be able to cure my apnea.

Aren't you glad you asked?

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