Using a sleep aid for my sleep study titration

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Catnapper
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Ambien

Post by Catnapper » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:22 pm

Looks like I had the opposite response to what the article predicts.

Sounds about right for me.

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Post by Guest » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:29 pm

Thanks Catnapper,


I do not take any advice as personal advice, and I always try to consult with my doctor. I just use the advice I get here as a general informational thing, and for emotional support. Thanks again for your help.

Kent

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Post by Guest » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:42 pm

Hey Sleepy WI,

Very Interesting Sleepy WI. So in actuality, hypnotics can have an affect on sleep study titration by possibly requiring less of a presure than you normally would require when sleeping without a hypnotic.

this is a very interesting study...


Kent


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sleep meds

Post by tomjax » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:34 pm

I cannot imagine ever having another sleep study since I have an auto.

I am so dependent on my PAP that i totally panic and cannot imagin trying to go to sleep without it.
I once left my mask behind when going up to my moms and it was a disaster.
Another time the power went off with the same results.

I would think the only way I could possibly go to sleep is with about 10mg ambien and then I would question the value of the findings.
Others without this problem may not be able to adjust to a strange bed and all those wires and not be able to go to sleep.
I wonder, Mattman et al, what happens when it is clear a person is not able to go to sleep in the center?


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Re: sleep meds

Post by roster » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:34 pm

[quote="tomjax"]...................

I am so dependent on my PAP that i totally panic and cannot imagin trying to go to sleep without it.
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Post by TGregg » Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:54 am

When I expressed concern about falling asleep in a strange place with an approximate 8 tons of wires hooked up to me, my doctor gave me a script for Ambein. Worked great, I didn't even get up to hit the bathroom! I was able to get my apnea confirmed, and figure out my pressure in one night.

My doctor indicated that studies show Ambein has little to no effect on OSA and pressure requirements. And Ambein is way better than that junk you get over the counter. I was out like a light, then up feeling great in the AM. The over-the-counter garbage makes me feel like crap the next day. Guess that's why it's prescription - way easier to get addicted to.


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Post by schaefage » Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:26 pm

TGregg wrote: My doctor indicated that studies show Ambein has little to no effect on OSA and pressure requirements. And Ambein is way better than that junk you get over the counter

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Thanks TGregg, I have had many people tell me that they do not think that ambien or lunesta will skew the results of the sleep study. So I am going to go with this and take the lunesta tomorrow night.

Kent

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Post by MidnightOwl » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:34 pm

Kent, I also asked my sleep doctor about the safety of ambien with apnea and got an ok I didn't ask specifically about titration but I don't see how it could effect titration and still be safe.

You need to sleep for the titration to work. My titration nearly failed because I had trouble sleeping in the lab and didn't bring ambien with me. I relied on being very short of sleep and that wasn't enough. The titration only worked because the tech extended the test time. And from the study charts, it looks to me like they were raising the pressure awful fast as the end approached. Even if the ambien did effect the titration it would do less harm then not sleeping enough.

I used to use ambien, the non CR version, several years ago. I didn't have any problems with it but I preferred an even shorter acting sleep med. And this was before they came out with the CR version because the patent on the original was expiring. It does take effect very fast. Don't take it until you are actually wired up and ready for bed. Ask all your questions of the tech first.

One thing I regret not doing during the titration study was getting the model name and size of every mask that I tried on. It wasn't that many masks and the names of the maskes I actually used was on the study results but I got that too late for it to be helpful. And it didn't include any information about masks that DIDN'T fit which is something that would be nice to know now.

Good luck.
Midnightowl


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Post by Guest » Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:34 pm

MidnightOwl,

Thanks for the input. I am definately going to use the lunesta for the sleep study. I agree, it is more important to be able to sleep than worry about any of the titration skewing effects of the lunesta. In fact, I'm doubting now that lunesta will have any effect on the titration results, except to allow me to get a better titration.

I guess the only other input would be from encore pro users who have evaluated their sleep (AHI, etc) with encore pro with and without ambien or lunesta. Has anyone done this?


Thanks,

Kent


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Post by Guest » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:08 pm

In response to the original poster: sometimes having pressure set too high can cause central events. Both my sleep doc and the respiratory therapist at the DME have mentioned that to me.