SleepyHead software development PROPOSAL

dojiscalper wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:40 am

This is something I'm very interested in. My programmings a bit rusty these days though I have a good understanding of how it works. On the other hand I have a lot of extremely versatile skills in areas like electronics, mechanics, and dealing with technologies in general. I'm a field service engineer by trade so my projects and skills end up meeting the demand of the day every day.

Come meet us on Discord. Over there I am Bruce if you want to tag me.

is "discord" the only comunication .... or will you be using the cpaptalk.com ?

grayghost4 wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:26 pm

is "discord" the only comunication .... or will you be using the cpaptalk.com ?

Good question.

Discord server was chosen as a chat platform by Mark. We can then communicate in real time, with different "channels" unlike this forum.

There is a thread over on ApneaBoard too and they have provided some disk access for files. We strive to keep both forums informed.

We just started organizing this week and are starting to break down roles. We are in need of experienced software coders right now.

Things that continually confuse new users:

Using the Resmed 24lpm leak flagging for non-Resmed machines. Turn that off when importing non-resmed data.

Using Respironics "Clear airway" for non-Respironics machines. Call them what everybody else does on other machines, "central".

There's others, they just escape me at the moment.

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:19 pm

Things that continually confuse new users:

Using the Resmed 24lpm leak flagging for non-Resmed machines. Turn that off when importing non-resmed data.

Using Respironics "Clear airway" for non-Respironics machines. Call them what everybody else does on other machines, "central".

There's others, they just escape me at the moment.

All good points. We are currently getting more familiar with the code, trying to complete what was already started. Something like the change in CA may be do-able.

We noticed all Mark's testing builds are 64-bit only and many users with 32-bit OS wanted to test. We are currently testing a 32-bit Windows build.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:57 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:19 pm

Things that continually confuse new users:

Using the Resmed 24lpm leak flagging for non-Resmed machines. Turn that off when importing non-resmed data.

Using Respironics "Clear airway" for non-Respironics machines. Call them what everybody else does on other machines, "central".

There's others, they just escape me at the moment.

All good points. We are currently getting more familiar with the code, trying to complete what was already started. Something like the change in CA may be do-able.

Oh, I know it's do-able. There are other similar things that I convinced him to spend a few minutes on, back when, but he never got around to those... He was always interested in 'new fun, flashy things'

Anybody else with things sleepyhead does that confuse newbies?

So, instead of "Clear Airway" you want "Central Apnea" ?

Personally I think Central Apnea sounds more scary.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:41 pm

So, instead of "Clear Airway" you want "Central Apnea" ?

Personally I think Central Apnea sounds more scary.

I want whatever the equipment manufacturer calls it.

So, for Respironics, sure, keep it with "clear airway".

Resmed, and everyone else, calls them "centrals".

There's a thread on the front page right now that's caused because of these mysterious "clear airway" things on a resmed machine.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:41 pm

So, instead of "Clear Airway" you want "Central Apnea" ?

Personally I think Central Apnea sounds more scary.

~~~you really can't set the bar much lower than *me*. I totally missed all things tech and computer when God was handing out "abilities".

I believe that *I* initially wanted to get a "score" of ALL CLEAR AIRWAYS because that sounded like a ~~~ good thing.

<something *NOT* to change?> ... I do LOVE the sheep picture (icon? mascot? spokes cartoon?) for SleepyHead.

Grace~~~ wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:23 pm

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:41 pm

So, instead of "Clear Airway" you want "Central Apnea" ?

Personally I think Central Apnea sounds more scary.

~~~you really can't set the bar much lower than *me*. I totally missed all things tech and computer when God was handing out "abilities".

I believe that *I* initially wanted to get a "score" of ALL CLEAR AIRWAYS because that sounded like a ~~~ good thing.

<something *NOT* to change?> ... I do LOVE the sheep picture (icon? mascot? spokes cartoon?) for SleepyHead.

Perhaps, in light of this, the term "clear apnea" should be banned...

Be careful! A Central Apnea can only be concluded when brain activity is measured. Most brands of cpap can detect an open airway apnea quite well. Nothing more than that! AFAIK there are some fine tunings by some manufacturers, like Resmed, but still I propose to keep with the term that is used in the official program. And a pop-up balloon that explains what the term really means, according to the official manual..
Just my 2 Euros.


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Grace~~~ wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:23 pm

I do LOVE the sheep picture (icon? mascot? spokes cartoon?) for SleepyHead.

His name is Bob. And he's Ba-a-a-d!

A KLERK wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:41 am

Be careful! A Central Apnea can only be concluded when brain activity is measured. Most brands of cpap can detect an open airway apnea quite well. Nothing more than that! AFAIK there are some fine tunings by some manufacturers, like Resmed, but still I propose to keep with the term that is used in the official program. And a pop-up balloon that explains what the term really means, according to the official manual..
Just my 2 Euros.

Sleepyhead isn't concluding anything, it's reporting what the device has flagged as a central. Sleepyhead should be reporting what the device has flagged.

Your argument for not using the term Central, could also be applied to Hypopneas. Hypopneas are defined as a 30% or greater decrease in flow lasting at least 10 seconds and associated with a 4% or greater oxyhemoglobin desataturation.

Most machines can detect the decrease in breathing quite well, but not the oxy. desat, but we would never consider renaming hyponeas to another H-word.

That is exactly what I was trying to state. We should follow the manufacturer's wording. Do not use Philip's term on a Resmed machine and the other way around. But help the user by explaining what is meant...
So either expression is good in the right place!
We could consider giving a wider explanation like in Pugsy's Pointers, if Brenda agrees...


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A KLERK wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:47 am

That is exactly what I was trying to state. We should follow the manufacturer's wording. Do not use Philip's term on a Resmed machine and the other way around. But help the user by explaining what is meant...
So either expression is good in the right place!
We could consider giving a wider explanation like in Pugsy's Pointers, if Brenda agrees...

But ResMed machines refers to "Centrals" as Centrals, your previous post cautioned against using the word Centrals.