Should mask leak cause increased pressure?

Sleep2Dream · Post by **Sleep2Dream** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:12 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:26 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 am
. And maybe I should put it all back to what seemed to be working: minimum at 8, max at 10,
For most people, that's a dumb setting. "max at 10" just promises that the machine can't do anything to prevent events.

I know it sounded kind of dumb. But what would be a smart setting? Minimum 8, maximum, say, 15? I don't like when the pressure goes higher: I get scratchy dryness at the back of my throat with pressures higher than around 12.

Sleep2Dream · Post by **Sleep2Dream** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:14 am

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:02 am

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:13 pm
I mean, I am half-dead when I get up to go to the bathroom at night, and it's all I can deal with to put the damn mask back on and go back to sleep, trusting on the autostart to work. Which it does.
Don't take the mask off!! Disconnect the hose. Leave the mask on.

I do it a little differently from many. I use a quick disconnect between the hose and the machine. When getting up in the middle of the night, I pull the hose loose at the machine. Then, I wrap the hose around my neck. It's easy to get going again - just unwrap the hose from my neck and attach it to the machine. Autostart takes care of the rest.

I didn't mean that taking the mask off and putting it back on it particularly difficult--just that it's something I have to DO, when all I want to do is fall back into bed and sleep. I've tried disconnecting the hose, but that didn't make it less annoying. I think I am just going through a phase where I hate my machine and the need to use it. I'll get over it, presumably...

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:20 am

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:12 am
I know it sounded kind of dumb. But what would be a smart setting? Minimum 8, maximum, say, 15? I don't like when the pressure goes higher: I get scratchy dryness at the back of my throat with pressures higher than around 12.

The machine won't go higher than it needs to go to prevent events....and if the max of 10 isn't enough to prevent events...then events will happen.
The machine doesn't really care about your issues with scratchy dryness in the back of your throat.

You need to decide which is worse....letting some apnea events happen because you have limited where the machine can go to fight the airway closures...or the dry scratchy throat stuff.

You need to look at the software reports and see where the machine is wanting to go in the first place and then see what happens if you restrict it from going where it might want to go.
12 would be better than 10 if the machine wants to go to 12 and you are having a lot of events at 10.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:22 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:12 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:26 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 am
. And maybe I should put it all back to what seemed to be working: minimum at 8, max at 10,
For most people, that's a dumb setting. "max at 10" just promises that the machine can't do anything to prevent events.
I know it sounded kind of dumb. But what would be a smart setting? Minimum 8, maximum, say, 15? I don't like when the pressure goes higher: I get scratchy dryness at the back of my throat with pressures higher than around 12.

Max 20, unless you want to prevent the machine from being able to prevent apneas.

Sleep2Dream · Post by **Sleep2Dream** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:31 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:20 am

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:12 am
I know it sounded kind of dumb. But what would be a smart setting? Minimum 8, maximum, say, 15? I don't like when the pressure goes higher: I get scratchy dryness at the back of my throat with pressures higher than around 12.
The machine won't go higher than it needs to go to prevent events....and if the max of 10 isn't enough to prevent events...then events will happen.
The machine doesn't really care about your issues with scratchy dryness in the back of your throat.

You need to decide which is worse....letting some apnea events happen because you have limited where the machine can go to fight the airway closures...or the dry scratchy throat stuff.

You need to look at the software reports and see where the machine is wanting to go in the first place and then see what happens if you restrict it from going where it might want to go.
12 would be better than 10 if the machine wants to go to 12 and you are having a lot of events at 10.

I'll reset the max to 20 just to see what the machine does--thanks for the suggestion. Though my AHI has almost never gone above 3.5 with the max set at 15 or even lower. I'm not clear on how important it is to prioritize pushing that AHI even lower. Average has probably been around 3 (pure guessing, but I know it can't be higher than that).

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:36 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:31 pm
I'm not clear on how important it is to prioritize pushing that AHI even lower.

Kind of depends on what kind of events is composing that AHI and when they are happening during the night.

Sleep2Dream · Post by **Sleep2Dream** » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:30 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:36 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:31 pm
I'm not clear on how important it is to prioritize pushing that AHI even lower.
Kind of depends on what kind of events is composing that AHI and when they are happening during the night.

Can you elaborate on that? What should I be looking for? I've explored Sleepyhead data, but I confess I get overwhelmed and lose interest after a while.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:02 am

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:30 pm
Can you elaborate on that? What should I be looking for? I've explored Sleepyhead data, but I confess I get overwhelmed and lose interest after a while.

Follow the instructions and post a graph of a typical night. No use talking about generalities. Let's talk about the SPECIFICS of your therapy. Yes, you can get overwhelmed trying to evaluate your own Sleepyhead results. Post a graph and get help from forum members.

esel · Post by **esel** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:54 am

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:02 am

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:13 pm
I mean, I am half-dead when I get up to go to the bathroom at night, and it's all I can deal with to put the damn mask back on and go back to sleep, trusting on the autostart to work. Which it does.
Don't take the mask off!! Disconnect the hose. Leave the mask on.

I do it a little differently from many. I use a quick disconnect between the hose and the machine. When getting up in the middle of the night, I pull the hose loose at the machine. Then, I wrap the hose around my neck. It's easy to get going again - just unwrap the hose from my neck and attach it to the machine. Autostart takes care of the rest.

I did this once... steeped on the hose and landed face down on the flore. Boy was I lucky I had a FF mask on. Did not even break a tooth.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:34 am

esel wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:54 am
I did this once... steeped on the hose and landed face down on the flore.

Youtube?

esel · Post by **esel** » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:58 am

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:34 am

esel wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:54 am
I did this once... steeped on the hose and landed face down on the flore.
Youtube?

Oh girl I wish I had some of my hoseland kung fu on Youtube

Sleep2Dream · Post by **Sleep2Dream** » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:34 am

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:02 am

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:30 pm
Can you elaborate on that? What should I be looking for? I've explored Sleepyhead data, but I confess I get overwhelmed and lose interest after a while.
Follow the instructions and post a graph of a typical night. No use talking about generalities. Let's talk about the SPECIFICS of your therapy. Yes, you can get overwhelmed trying to evaluate your own Sleepyhead results. Post a graph and get help from forum members.

I will do that as soon as I get the chance to pull the latest data from my card and figure out how to post the image! I'll do it in a new post, to separate it out. Thanks!

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:46 pm

esel wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:58 am
Oh girl I wish I had some of my hoseland kung fu on Youtube

Jas_williams · Post by **Jas_williams** » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:56 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:34 am

I will do that as soon as I get the chance to pull the latest data from my card and figure out how to post the image! I'll do it in a new post, to separate it out. Thanks!

Keep your images in this thread as it helps keep things together

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:20 pm

Jas_williams wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:56 pm

Sleep2Dream wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:34 am

I will do that as soon as I get the chance to pull the latest data from my card and figure out how to post the image! I'll do it in a new post, to separate it out. Thanks!
Keep your images in this thread as it helps keep things together

Unfortunately, sleep2dream hijacked someone else's thread.

Perhaps Pugsy can split this one off.

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