tsa and carry on water

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm

ChrisD wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:57 pm
When I fly, I use this to carry my distilled water - https://www.amazon.com/PAP-FLASK/dp/B007FV92QU

How does that label prevent you from loading the bottle with nitro-g or other banned materials, I really think that's what they are trying to stop.

Jim

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:49 pm

I don't understand why anybody would bother to carry distilled water through an airport, that stuff is heavy.

Distilled water is just a convenience, so you don't have to descale the water tank.

As has been pointed out by people in other countries where distilled water isn't readily available, their manuals just say "use water", not "use distilled water".

remstarcpap · Post by **remstarcpap** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:06 am

Or just carry this, solves all your problems. Dehydrated water. https://www.amazon.com/Witty-Yeti-Dehyd ... B072L38SGT

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:07 am

remstarcpap wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:06 am
Or just carry this, solves all your problems. Dehydrated water. https://www.amazon.com/Witty-Yeti-Dehyd ... B072L38SGT

Perhaps not ALL the problems...

JayDee · Post by **JayDee** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:50 am

ChrisD wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:57 pm
When I fly, I use this to carry my distilled water - https://www.amazon.com/PAP-FLASK/dp/B007FV92QU

As fine an example of "free-enterprise" as that bottle is, I'd be somewhat hesitant to attempt going through the TSA checkpoint with any amount of water in it, considering I always seem to encounter the agent who is having a bad day. I believe that label would prompt an eye-roll from TSA that would peg the eye-roll meter past the "Judge Judy" level. In my experience, "TSA" is the abbreviation for: "Theatrics, Sluggishness and Apathy", and that label seems an invitation for some military-grade apathy.

Plus, for that price, I could arrive at my destination and hire a taxi to get a gallon of distilled water at the nearest grocery. Or if the nearest grocery was within convenient walking distance, I could buy 14 gallons of distilled water for that price, tax included, though toting all of it back to the hotel would be an issue.

Or, to keep from poking the TSA "bear" and avoid the "trip to the store" hassle entirely, I could just walk to the sink in the hotel room.

-JD

babydinosnoreless · Post by **babydinosnoreless** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:11 am

Aquafina and some other bottled drinking water use a ro system. When they gave me the machine they said to use either
Distilled or RO water. Just go to the gift shop at the hotel or airport and buy a small bottle.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:57 pm

Cynmatthes wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:11 am
Aquafina and some other bottled drinking water use a ro system. When they gave me the machine they said to use either
Distilled or RO water. Just go to the gift shop at the hotel or airport and buy a small bottle.

You should learn by now that what "they" say should usually be ignored.

Just use tap water, if you can shower in it, you can use it in the CPAP.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:01 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:57 pm

Cynmatthes wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:11 am
Aquafina and some other bottled drinking water use a ro system. When they gave me the machine they said to use either
Distilled or RO water. Just go to the gift shop at the hotel or airport and buy a small bottle.
You should learn by now that what "they" say should usually be ignored.

Just use tap water, if you can shower in it, you can use it in the CPAP.

Agreed. Avoid the gift shops and hotel counters whenever possible.

babydinosnoreless · Post by **babydinosnoreless** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:18 pm

But I love gift shops. *pout*

Dog Slobber · Post by **Dog Slobber** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:03 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:49 pm
As has been pointed out by people in other countries where distilled water isn't readily available, their manuals just say "use water", not "use distilled water".

Just re-enforcing what palerider has said abut the [distilled]water quote from EU vs NA ResMed manuals.

CPAP_distilled Water.jpg

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:44 am

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:03 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:49 pm
As has been pointed out by people in other countries where distilled water isn't readily available, their manuals just say "use water", not "use distilled water".
Just re-enforcing what palerider has said abut the [distilled]water quote from EU vs NA ResMed manuals.

CPAP_distilled Water.jpg

Very useful, now I can see why the Caravan are illegally rushing to our southern borders, they just want to refill their HH's with our cheap Distilled Water.

Jim

DreamDiver · Post by **DreamDiver** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:38 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:27 am

D.H. wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:59 am
Just make sure it's dry every morning and do a vinegar wash when you get home.
Why? What if you don't like vinegar or might be allergic to it?
What if there isn't any minerals at all on the water chamber?

Wasn't sure if this was in jest, but I'll answer.

Wiping out the excess water during the day while traveling will reduce time of surface contact of mineral-laden water with tank innards, thus reducing scale build-up. It's the same principle as wiping down a glass shower stall after every shower to reduce scale build-up on the stall. Favorable results are more obvious in locations with extremely hard water.

Vinegar allergies are rare. They're usually not an allergy to acetic acid, but rather the plant-matter the vinegar was made from. For instance if you're allergic to apples or grapes, you probably shouldn't consume apple or wine vinegar. Distilled white vinegar from the grocery store should be safe for most people to use as a cleaning/descaling agent. The only thing a bottle of distilled white vinegar should contain is about a 5% solution of distilled acetic acid in water.

If the vacation was long enough and the water was hard enough, the tank owner will probably be the judge of whether to use distilled white vinegar to dissolve visible (or tangible) mineral buildup. Once the tank is rinsed and dry, the vinegar smell should dissipate completely.

Alternatively, a couple of squeezes of lemon or lime juice in a tank of water during the day while the tank isn't in use will work for those who aren't allergic to citrus. If you've ever worked in a restaurant with glass coffee carafes, one trick they often use to get rid of the brown coffee scum is a wedge of lemon squeezed into a full carafe of water overnight before the next serving day. The citric acid in lemon juice scours away the coffee scum and the carafe is clear as new. Wash it and start the next carafe of coffee. It's similar to the cleaning action in a humidifier tank. Acetic acid may be safer since it's distilled and thus divorced from significant plant matter that could be an allergen.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:53 pm

DreamDiver wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:38 pm
Wasn't sure if this was in jest, but I'll answer.

Wasn't in jest...and I already knew the answers to all those questions. I was trying to prod him to give more complete and thorough responses...his responses are often either incorrect or incomplete and someone has to come along behind him and fix the errors so that people don't get mislead. He ignored me...big surprise there.

DH promotes using vinegar all the time...even when distilled water is used and doesn't seem to understand that some people simply don't want to smell vingegar or use it in any fashion because they don't want to.
That's why the question about "why use it if no mineral build up"....he loves the stuff and thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread but never seems to care that someone might not love the stuff as much as he does.

Don't want to do any thing is a good enough reason in my book to not do it.

And yeah...some people do have a problem smelling vinegar...and it's more than the stink. It actually triggers a bit of allergic asthma type of coughing for me along with some annoying sneezing. So I figure if it can happen to me...I bet I am not the only person in the whole world that might be in a similar boat.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:12 pm

DreamDiver wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:38 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:27 am

D.H. wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:59 am
Just make sure it's dry every morning and do a vinegar wash when you get home.
Why? What if you don't like vinegar or might be allergic to it?
What if there isn't any minerals at all on the water chamber?
Wasn't sure if this was in jest, but I'll answer.

Wiping out the excess water during the day while traveling will reduce time of surface contact of mineral-laden water with tank innards, thus reducing scale build-up. It's the same principle as wiping down a glass shower stall after every shower to reduce scale build-up on the stall. Favorable results are more obvious in locations with extremely hard water.

Vinegar allergies are rare. They're usually not an allergy to acetic acid, but rather the plant-matter the vinegar was made from. For instance if you're allergic to apples or grapes, you probably shouldn't consume apple or wine vinegar. Distilled white vinegar from the grocery store should be safe for most people to use as a cleaning/descaling agent. The only thing a bottle of distilled white vinegar should contain is about a 5% solution of distilled acetic acid in water.

If the vacation was long enough and the water was hard enough, the tank owner will probably be the judge of whether to use distilled white vinegar to dissolve visible (or tangible) mineral buildup. Once the tank is rinsed and dry, the vinegar smell should dissipate completely.

Alternatively, a couple of squeezes of lemon or lime juice in a tank of water during the day while the tank isn't in use will work for those who aren't allergic to citrus. If you've ever worked in a restaurant with glass coffee carafes, one trick they often use to get rid of the brown coffee scum is a wedge of lemon squeezed into a full carafe of water overnight before the next serving day. The citric acid in lemon juice scours away the coffee scum and the carafe is clear as new. Wash it and start the next carafe of coffee. It's similar to the cleaning action in a humidifier tank. Acetic acid may be safer since it's distilled and thus divorced from significant plant matter that could be an allergen.

Why would Distilled white vinegar, be called distilled. If you distilled it it would distilled water (H2O), the other things would be removed by the process. Any minerals would be dissolved by the acid in the vinegar., to have Distilled white vinegar you would need Distilled Water and have to add the Vinegar into it, when you do that it wouldn't be distilled. All Rain water is contaminated after it forms by air falling to ground and run off. Jim

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:52 pm

Again, if one is repelled by the scent of vinegar,
a bit of vodka removes odors, and most microbes that cause them.
A tiny bit does the trick. Use the rest as desired.

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