Ketogenic Diet (Keto) - Ineffective and Dangerous

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Re: Ketogenic Diet (Keto) - Ineffective and Dangerous

Post by Janknitz » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:29 pm

Grace~~~ wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:09 pm
Hi Janknitz ~~~

Oh just more terrible repercussions from chemo and radiation. Nothing cPap or Keto related.
I'm just in a kinda manic shock right now. Doing the kind of posting one should regret. Now is when the internet should go out ... but nooooooo ~~~~

As for the keto/ diet topic of this thread (kinda) ...

It may be a while before I see an endocrinologist. I am still self testing and getting that same result of high morning readings of around 120-130 and then I am staying under 90 the rest of the day.

I tried to read up on dawn phenomena. Should I eat something before bed? And what? Or what should I eat first thing in the morning? I've been having a poached egg on spinach or asparagus? These are things I would ask an endocrinologist or any doctor if any of them cared about my new fast onset glucose issue. Right now the most serious thing is an infection that no antibiotic is getting under control and some new "bodily failures". They've been pulling organs and pieces out of me like a jenga game. :|

I don't know enough to say that I am on a KETO diet. I have not eaten anything at all processed. Vegetable based. Meat as a seasoning. Eggs and Dairy.

I wanted to find a sweetener because I really was missing coffee which I like with a little cream and sugar. I tried Stevia a few weeks ago and I had a really weird reaction. I turned red and felt like I was choking. It scared me. I took benedryl and the episode passed but now I am afraid to try again?

I'm not sure how to test for an allergic reaction safely? It would be nice to have some kind of sweetener option for rare instances and for coffee. Though I suppose I can live without it.

I've been thinking of going to Hippocrates in South Florida to do their wheatgrass program. All wheatgrass, all day, including wheatgrass enemas ... and possible wheatgrass baths? LOL ... but my oncologist said he would abandon me if I did.

I'd like to have some exact diet to follow which is why I like when it's discussed here. Something I could focus on and feel like I am doing everything right. When I read here on cpaptalk threads about diets it's very clear to me all that I do not know.
So sorry you’re going through this.

As already pointed out, your numbers aren’t terrible at all. It may be dawn phenomenon, but the stress you’re under and the multiple insults to your body are a likely explanation, so you need to cut yourself some slack!

As for the stevia, it’s in the same family as ragweed so many people are allergic to it. Avoid it at all costs because that was a pretty serious reaction, and you don’t want your next one to be anaphylaxis. You need to talk to your doctor about this. You might need to carry an epi-pen.

I hate stevia in any form. I’ve got pretty low tolerance to sweeteners, but I do okwith pure Erythritol and a new sweetener called allulose. Erythritol is often mixed with stevia, so read labels carefully. I buy pure Erythritol Whole Foods or Amazon.

If you really want a guide to low carb/ keto the sanest, easiest guide is here: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto

But take it easy on yourself, please.
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Re: Ketogenic Diet (Keto) - Ineffective and Dangerous

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:29 am

Luckily, we have way more choices of sweetener now than were had 60 years ago.
Back then, saccharin was it. Nasty! I cannot believe so many places still set it out.
It's the same as saying, "So you're diabetic--So suffer. We hate you."
I carry my own packets--in my insulin kit. Also mini packs to flavor FREE tap WATER.
Nobody's making drink money off of ME.

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Re: Ketogenic Diet (Keto) - Ineffective and Dangerous

Post by Arlene1963 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:38 pm

Grace~~~ wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:09 pm

I wanted to find a sweetener because I really was missing coffee which I like with a little cream and sugar.
I really like Xylitol. It tastes very fresh and cool in the mouth. Added bonus, my dentist recommends it as well! The only thing to be aware of is if you have dogs around be very careful because Xylitol is apparently very toxic to dogs, even in small amounts.

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Re: Ketogenic Diet (Keto) - Ineffective and Dangerous

Post by Janknitz » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:05 pm

Arlene1963 wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:38 pm
Grace~~~ wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:09 pm

I wanted to find a sweetener because I really was missing coffee which I like with a little cream and sugar.
I really like Xylitol. It tastes very fresh and cool in the mouth. Added bonus, my dentist recommends it as well! The only thing to be aware of is if you have dogs around be very careful because Xylitol is apparently very toxic to dogs, even in small amounts.
I like Xylitol, too. We had a dog who wouldn't touch anything without permission so I could use it. But she died and we adopted this hellion of a dog who gets into everything, right after I bought a 2 lb bag of xylitol. So it's up on the top of the fridge where he can't reach (yet!) and now I'm afraid to use it.
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