Hmmm. We'll have to agree on this one! Mouth breathing and mouth leaking are entirely different things. I might mouth breathe if I had a stuffed nose. But even lukasz seems to be talking about mouth leaking in his original post. I thought this was the thread topic.
I'm not sure I said mouth breathing anywhere in this thread, but if I did, I was referring to mouth leaking. Apologies. Just so you know, I don't breath through my mouth with a full face mask on. I breathe through my nose only. The effect of having the full-face mask keeps the ambient pressure in my mouth the same as that of my nose, so it's easier to breathe through my nose because the mask keeps the pressure of my mouth equal to that of my nose. Having a papcap and or a Pad-a-cheek strap makes keeping the leaks even easier to manage. Yeah, I look like a horror flick monster, but at least I sleep.
Besides... when you're so deep asleep that your mouth leaks regardless using a nasal mask, how is that not a leak?
We are like margarine and butter. Which is better? The science is nebulous. Perhaps it's based on individual factors. It's much more likely that for you, leaks are harder to control with full face and for me, leaks are much harder to control with nasal. It's likely you're at a much higher set of pressure levels and range on bipap than I am on apap. At pressures higher than 12, I also get aerophagia. I'm astounded, amazed and happy for you that you can actually keep your soft palate shut against higher pressures at deeper levels of sleep. I'm physically incapable of doing so. Hence, to me, it's a leak. That's why nasal masks don't work for me.
Again, we agree. Popular masks likely fit the largest number of people with the fewest large leaks. For me, again, it's the Simplus FF. For you, it's the Airfit P10 Nasal Pillow.
It comes down to whether lukasz will try a full face (not liberty or hybrid) to see if it will work since nasal masks cause him (like me) to mouth leak. Whatever works best for him is the most important outcome.
Chris
