Help finding the correct settings please?

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by Shnorky » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:52 am

Guys...

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by Shnorky » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am

And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by zonker » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:53 am

Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:52 am
Guys...
Gals...
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by zonker » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am

Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:58 pm

zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am
Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
The detailed data is written directly to the card, it's not saved in the machine, so if the card isn't in the machine... there's no data

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by Shnorky » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm

zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am
Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
Nope, didn't work - sleepyhead says there is only a summary and no detail data - no graphs or anything.
(what palerider said)

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by zonker » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:52 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:58 pm
zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am
Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
The detailed data is written directly to the card, it's not saved in the machine, so if the card isn't in the machine... there's no data
are their machines that do keep the data and can be later written to it?
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by palerider » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:54 pm

zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:52 pm
palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:58 pm
zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am
Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
The detailed data is written directly to the card, it's not saved in the machine, so if the card isn't in the machine... there's no data
are their machines that do keep the data and can be later written to it?
Not that I know of... *some* data is in the machine, at least compliance, sometimes some more, but the detail stuff.... straight to the card.

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by zonker » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:58 pm

Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm
zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am
Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
Nope, didn't work - sleepyhead says there is only a summary and no detail data - no graphs or anything.
(what palerider said)
roger that.
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by zonker » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:59 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:54 pm
zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:52 pm
palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:58 pm
zonker wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 am
Shnorky wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:01 am
And thank you for the recommendations. I increased min ipap to 11 last night, sadly forgot to re insert the sd card so the resmed did not save any data yay.
Byt got rings under my eyes down to the nose base and feeling extremely tired.
Bipap or not, it's not treating my apnea very well with the current settings :(
put the card back in and it writes to it.
The detailed data is written directly to the card, it's not saved in the machine, so if the card isn't in the machine... there's no data
are their machines that do keep the data and can be later written to it?
Not that I know of... *some* data is in the machine, at least compliance, sometimes some more, but the detail stuff.... straight to the card.
bummer.
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by Pugsy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:31 pm

are there machines that do keep the data and can be later written to it?
Actually the Respironics System One and DreamStation models keep some detailed data stored on the machine and will be written to the SD card if the card has spent the night in the computer when it gets inserted in the cpap machine.

No flow rate graphs though...those files are quite large and the machine doesn't store them in the internal memory so if no SD card in the machine during the night no flow rate graphs but you get all the others.

I don't know about other brands.

The only thing Respironics loses is the flow rate graph. ResMed loses all detailed data which includes the data files needed for the graphs.

Unsure about how long those detailed files are stored in the memory but for sure 1 week and I think probably 30 days.

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by zonker » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:00 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:31 pm
are there machines that do keep the data and can be later written to it?
Actually the Respironics System One and DreamStation models keep some detailed data stored on the machine and will be written to the SD card if the card has spent the night in the computer when it gets inserted in the cpap machine.

No flow rate graphs though...those files are quite large and the machine doesn't store them in the internal memory so if no SD card in the machine during the night no flow rate graphs but you get all the others.

I don't know about other brands.

The only thing Respironics loses is the flow rate graph. ResMed loses all detailed data which includes the data files needed for the graphs.

Unsure about how long those detailed files are stored in the memory but for sure 1 week and I think probably 30 days.
thanks for the explanation. i think that's what confused me. having been on repironics so long, i would just shove the card back in. guess i didn't notice the missing flow graph, because i don't pay any attention to that anyway.

and i found out about the summary data this morning! no graph, but it gave me a breakdown constructed of obstructive,hypopnea and clear airway, all of which made up AHI of 0.20.

with news like that, who needs a graph? :lol:
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by Shnorky » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:58 am

hi everybody!

help please :)
a short overview as at the beginning I foolishly didn't keep everything in one thread:
I started CPAP therapy in 2016/2017 (took me a few months to get used to the feeling of a mask while sleeping) with a PR DreamStation AutoPAP,
pressure 5-15, AHI mostly 9-10, weight around 90kg
then until june 2017, slowly raised the settings to 10-19, with AHI mostly 5-7, mostly CAs.
the doctor then said, maybe those CAs happen from the pressure changes, so we tried fixed CPAP at 11cmH20 for a few weeks, which resulted in a worse AHI.
so then we tried narrow bracketing, pressures 11.5-14.5 or so. AHI between 6 and 12 mostly.
Still trying to get this AHI down, I then bought a ResMed BiPAP (AirCurve 10 VAuto) around June 2018, hoping that it would help.
The results were good numbers (AHI 1-3) but no felt treatment. Still not sure what happened there, but I couldn't really keep trying it AND keep my job so I went back to the Dreamstation machine. (Plus the dreamstation machine is only rent from the local "lung club chapter" (however it is called in English, sorry it's not my mother tongue) and they want to check the compliance on the machine once per year anyway, or they'll take it back and I'll be stuck with the other machine which doesn't get any good result yet)
Theeen in August 2018 (Sorry for the long-winded post!) I went for that compliance check and they said, oh, your data shows you need higher pressure.
So I upped the pressure slowly, to the 13-18 (and C-Flex setting of 2) it is at now. 13 is the maximum where I can still breathe out against the pressure, and where the aerophagia is not too painful. If the pressure goes up to 17 during the night my mask starts leaking and wakes me up.
Then at the yearly checkup at the doctor, he barely looked at me or the data, just "no no no, your settings are all wrong, you need a pressure 10-15", so I told him, ok? just put the new settings on the SD card and I'll try that. It didn't work in the end and I'm not sure if I should change the settings manually at all.
To note, since 2016 I took on about 25kg (55lbs, for a total of about 18.1 stones?), and had to stop playing music, which might have weakened my throat muscles? Just some random ideas there.

May I ask for your suggestions, in general, or regarding the pressure settings, please?

Thank you already in advance, not sure if my deoxygenated and freshly summertimed brain is able to make any sense at all at the moment.
(Not sure if Encore Pro's report of the last month is of any help but... there.)
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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by Okie bipap » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:38 am

I recommend bringing your minimum pressure up in order to squash the OAs and hypopneas. Try minimum of 14 and leave everything else the same.

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Re: Help finding the correct settings please?

Post by katestyles » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:45 pm

It is frustrating to feel like the machine is not treating you. In what way do you experience this not-feeling-treated?

I know that I sometimes feel like I didn't get good sleep, and sometimes I feel great. Often that has very little to do with the numbers.

Like last night I got an AHI of 0.5. That is one of my lowest in ages.

But I still had trouble keeping my eyes open this morning.

Mind you I was in a warm, darkened room, with calming music and a voice droning on......

What does "not feeling treated" feel like?

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