need advice for mask - nasal congestion

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ChicagoGranny
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Re: need advice for mask - nasal congestion

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:30 pm

mtnguyen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:26 pm
i ve read a lot of research and they say craniofacial deformity is the leading cause of sleep apnea in non obese person
I also believe that craniofacial deformity is a major cause of sleep apnea, and sleep apnea left untreated leads to obesity. ------>
recent studies suggest that OSA may itself cause weight gain. Factors such as reduced activity levels and increased appetite, particularly for refined carbohydrates, may conceivably contribute to weight gain in OSA patients. Whether OSA predisposes to preferential accumulation of visceral fat remains to be determined. CPAP treatment of OSA reduces the amount of visceral fat (as measured by abdominal CT scanning), even in patients without significant weight loss.

These findings support the concept that patients with obstructive sleep apnea may be susceptible to increasing obesity in the period preceding the diagnosis of obstructive sleep apnea. ---> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10489107

Patients with obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) are frequently obese and are predisposed to weight gain. They also have heightened sympathetic drive. We reasoned that noradrenergic activation of beta(3)-receptors on adipocytes would inhibit leptin production, predisposing to obesity in sleep apnea. ----> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10899061

Short sleep duration in young, healthy men is associated with decreased leptin levels, increased ghrelin levels, and increased hunger and appetite. ----> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15583226
mtnguyen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:54 am
make me looks better
mtnguyen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:26 pm
i looks much more attractive with a tall nose
Now you MUST post photographs. :D

mtnguyen
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Re: need advice for mask - nasal congestion

Post by mtnguyen » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:37 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:30 pm
mtnguyen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:26 pm
i ve read a lot of research and they say craniofacial deformity is the leading cause of sleep apnea in non obese person
I also believe that craniofacial deformity is a major cause of sleep apnea, and sleep apnea left untreated leads to obesity. ------>
recent studies suggest that OSA may itself cause weight gain. Factors such as reduced activity levels and increased appetite, particularly for refined carbohydrates, may conceivably contribute to weight gain in OSA patients. Whether OSA predisposes to preferential accumulation of visceral fat remains to be determined. CPAP treatment of OSA reduces the amount of visceral fat (as measured by abdominal CT scanning), even in patients without significant weight loss.

These findings support the concept that patients with obstructive sleep apnea may be susceptible to increasing obesity in the period preceding the diagnosis of obstructive sleep apnea. ---> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10489107

Patients with obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) are frequently obese and are predisposed to weight gain. They also have heightened sympathetic drive. We reasoned that noradrenergic activation of beta(3)-receptors on adipocytes would inhibit leptin production, predisposing to obesity in sleep apnea. ----> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10899061

Short sleep duration in young, healthy men is associated with decreased leptin levels, increased ghrelin levels, and increased hunger and appetite. ----> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15583226
mtnguyen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:54 am
make me looks better
mtnguyen wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:26 pm
i looks much more attractive with a tall nose
Now you MUST post photographs. :D
lol thanks chicagogranny, I am not confident to post a lot of picture of my face, even on social media,15 years of sleep apnea has caused me to look older than my age, my skin looks tired, it is sad that doctors in my country is very bad or I should have been treated much earlier than me being my own doctor. By telling my friends I have sleep apnea I am more motivated to lose weight. Unless the problem is subtle and hard to diagnose like craniofacial deform, upper airway resistance syndrome, or something wrong with your nose I don't think treating sleep apnea is hard, cpap or sleep apnea forum should have a BMI information next to member's name in order to see if the member sleep apnea is treatable or might be treatable by losing weight, prolonged use of cpap is irresponsible to their own's health, my bmi is 26.5, I am an asian so 26.5 is near asian obesity cutoff of 27 as oppose to 30 in other races obesity ,I recently get fat because of addiction to sweetened drink 8 months ago. I think losing weight isn't hard, get a stationary bike and do hiit 20 mins a day, 5 mins of warming up, 30 mins of all out sprint then 1'30 of slowing down, repeat 8 times, eat only eggs and green vegetable, visit https://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/ to calculate your macro nutrition, or if you want to lose weight faster then do water fast, evernote ceo described waterfast as one of the best thing he has discovered, google him and you'll see. Sorry for the rant but by posting this I am rehearsing my routine and forced me to follow it or I am not a man of my word, I hope anyone who has sleep apnea using cpap because of overweight can stop cosplaying darth vader or bane at night by losing their weight.

jubilla
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Re: need advice for mask - nasal congestion

Post by jubilla » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:52 pm

I wear an Amara View Full face mask which is great because it actually rest just under your nose but covers your mouth. I have had a stuffy nose all my life and expected that a CPAP with a humidifier would solve the problem. It helped, and I have noticed that if I get a cold or sinus infection I can breathe better using the CPAP. However, I still felt like I was suffocating at first. So I started smearing a little dab of Mentholatum across the bottom of my nose before I put my mask on That works like a charm.

LG34
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Re: need advice for mask - nasal congestion

Post by LG34 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:17 am

Thanks everyone for the great advice!

Good to know about rotating allergy meds. I am currently using Chlor Trimeton. Just happened to start using it before bed so hopefully it will work. Last year Claritin and Allegra and Zyrtec didn't work but I may not have given it a good enough try. My symptoms were so bad that I couldn't wait for it to work - some say it takes a few days to kick in.

This time I had to give in and take steroid tablets. I moved my hygrometer to the bedroom to check the humidity. It has ranged from 34-40 which is considered dry. I moved the humidity up as suggested and so far so good. Fingers crossed.

Good advice on a mask too. I think I may have to get one for the times when I can't use the pillows although I hate to spend the money.

It's interesting about the bite and jaw problems. I was going to post about this. Before my sleep apnea was diagnosed my lower jaw went forward and my bite got off. My dentist discovered my sleep apnea even though I had reported symptoms (not knowing it was sleep apnea) to my PCP and migraine doctor and they missed it. The sleep doctor thought I had the sleep apnea for sometime before diagnosis. My dentist thought the jaw moving was due to sleep apnea and hoped treatment for it would help the jaw but so far it hasn't. I have a history of a jaw injury many years before but it had settled down and the bite was good so I don't know if that is related or not. It's hard to find answers. The tech in my sleep doctor's office said they had another patient who had the jaw go forward. I asked if she would ask her what helped and/or who treated her for it. She said that would violate HIPPA. I disagree - it can't if the doctor's office asks and keeps from identifying the patient to me. I may ask my doctor to look into it.

mtnguyen, it's great that you found that you felt better when things were working properly. Gives everyone hope.

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