Power Failure - is it dangerous for a CPAP user?

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:48 pm

Perspective.
During an outage of several hours, I took the dog for a walk, chatting with neighbors,
partly to determine the extent of the outage. Upon complaining of my cpap deprivation,
I was reminded by a neighbor that she had a concentrator, quieted by the outage.
My mild discomfort was not as relevant as I had believed.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:17 pm

palerider wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:36 pm

. wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:32 pm
Of course, power outages are becoming progressively more unacceptable!

It's not just CPAPs, it's dialysis machines, respirators for critical respiratory failure, refrigeration for critical medication, and more. No doubt there will be even more devices in the future for all sorts of maladies. Besides, more people (and older people) live in high rise buildings and are dependent on elevators. Traffic lights and street lights are critical for public safety. Not to mention that food needs to be refrigerated. Electric systems simply need to be more reliable than they are now, period!
Another irrelevant post by the forum joke. So desperate to have some "input" that there's no thought whatsoever to the worth of what is posted.

If you want respect, stop posting mindlessly, Post less, and make them useful posts, ask some respected members whether your post is worth making. LSAT, JNK, Pugsy, Chunky, Nanwilson, Janknitz, Kteague, ChicagoGranny, etc. I'm sure that any one of them would respond and be helpful if you PM'd them with a message asking "How can i stop being the class clown and start being a respected member of the forum?"

Here's who you're replacing.

djont57 · Post by **djont57** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:35 pm

I like Don Rickles!

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:08 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:48 pm
Perspective.
During an outage of several hours, I took the dog for a walk, chatting with neighbors,
partly to determine the extent of the outage. Upon complaining of my cpap deprivation,
I was reminded by a neighbor that she had a concentrator, quieted by the outage.
My mild discomfort was not as relevant as I had believed.

I turn on my Android tablet, normally I see a dozen other WiFi's up running , if they are off I know it's not just me, and we are in for the long haul. No Wifi for me, DSL Router dead... I have to wait for repair. I still can report my landline as down without electric working.

Progress using electric is great, but it's not reliable, and will become less the more we depend on it. Our reliance on electricity is slightly more reliable that D.H.'s posts, neither will be fixed.

Jim

Muse-Inc · Post by **Muse-Inc** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:20 am

MamaBear2016 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:52 pm
...power failure while sleeping...

I don't wake up and I also have a fear of suffocation, so I got a power outage alarm. It has a flashing light and beeps when the power goes out. It's plugged into the same set of receptacle as my APAP. Wakes me up right away. I also have battery backup power for my APAP. Takes away a lot of angsting over a power outage.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:06 am

D.H. wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 am

In any case, make sure that the anti-asphyxia valves are not blocked (all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA).

One more False opinion of D.H.,"(all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA)." I use a ComfortGel FF "M" mask it has no Asphyxia valves, it doesn't need any it vents with holes in the elbow, others just drill vent holes in the mask. As long as air can exchange with the XPAP off enough all is well. I've had mine shut off 30 minutes before I woke up, (probably from a untreated apnea) Not pleasant, but alive none the less. If it didn't work we would need more funeral homes and lawyers would be happier! Jim

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:34 am

Goofproof wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:06 am

D.H. wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 am

In any case, make sure that the anti-asphyxia valves are not blocked (all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA).
One more False opinion of D.H.,"(all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA)." I use a ComfortGel FF "M" mask it has no Asphyxia valves . . .

Wrong, Goofproof.
I have used the Comfortgel full face mask, and the anti-asphyxia valve is IN THE ELBOW..
The little silicone flap there blocks the hole when the airflow is on
When the mask is on, and the blower is blowing, the flap flips to direct air into your nose.
No air--the flap flops away from the hole.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:22 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:34 am

Goofproof wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:06 am

D.H. wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 am

In any case, make sure that the anti-asphyxia valves are not blocked (all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA).
One more False opinion of D.H.,"(all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA)." I use a ComfortGel FF "M" mask it has no Asphyxia valves . . .
Wrong, Goofproof.
I have used the Comfortgel full face mask, and the anti-asphyxia valve is IN THE ELBOW..
The little silicone flap there blocks the hole when the airflow is on
When the mask is on, and the blower is blowing, the flap flips to direct air into your nose.
No air--the flap flops away from the hole.

Mine: Respironics M ComfortGEL Blue FF Mask - REF 606959007048 . NO FLAP VALVE, vent holes in piece in elbow with holes in it, NO Flapper. I have (2) am using one at this time. Holes must be cheaper than flappers, Wile E. Coyote, knows his Acme Holes! Jim

D.H. lives in a world of absolutes, unfortunately they seldom apply in the Real World!

Fixed mask model, Coffee must have been too weak.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:41 pm

Nasal masks do not have it--just full face.
Quotes inside quotes--it is just too much . . .
And you DID insert "ff", GP, so I believed that.
I need a drink.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:25 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:41 pm
Nasal masks do not have it--just full face.
Quotes inside quotes--it is just too much . . .
And you DID insert "ff", GP, so I believed that.
I need a drink.

You are correct, I read the wrong mask, I have corrected with the number from the FF mask frame. It's using the same vent as the Nasal mask, no flapper just holes on a ?snap in? incert. I guess I need a bigger cup, I use instant double scoop into 1/2 cup water, may have to increase it until the spoon stands up, or desolves.

Jim

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:03 pm

. wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:22 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:34 am

. wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:06 am

. wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 am

In any case, make sure that the anti-asphyxia valves are not blocked (all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA).
One more False opinion of .,"(all FF masks have this if they are approved by the FDA)." I use a ComfortGel FF "M" mask it has no Asphyxia valves . . .
Wrong, ..
I have used the Comfortgel full face mask, and the anti-asphyxia valve is IN THE ELBOW..
The little silicone flap there blocks the hole when the airflow is on
When the mask is on, and the blower is blowing, the flap flips to direct air into your nose.
No air--the flap flops away from the hole.
Mine: Respironics M ComfortGEL Blue FF Mask - REF 606959007048 . NO FLAP VALVE, vent holes in piece in elbow with holes in it, NO Flapper. I have (2) am using one at this time. Holes must be cheaper than flappers, Wile E. Coyote, knows his Acme Holes! Jim

. lives in a world of absolutes, unfortunately they seldom apply in the Real World!

Fixed mask model, Coffee must have been too weak.

Well, If YOUR "Comfortgel blue full" mask doesn't have an entrainment valve in the elbow, then you're using the wrong elbow.

Here's the page from the manual for the mask you're alleging to have:

Resmed (and probably everybody else) calls it an 'anti-asphyxia' valve, Respironics, having to be different, calls it an 'entrainment' valve.

It's clearly shown on all pictures of the mask that are on various web pages of people selling the mask.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:30 pm

I drink cold brew medium blend coffee.
60/40 with whole milk, with a lovely glop of heavy whipping cream.
Add sugar free chocolate or caramel syrup to taste.
Savor.

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