Please Interperet My Data

Sean19 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:58 pm

TedVPAP wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:50 pm

Until you get your mouth leaking/breathing problem tamed, there is no reason worrying about your data. Your pressure is low enough such that a chin strap may be effective.

Hi Ted,
I was hoping I could train myself to keep my mouth closed during the night. It was very hard for me to admit there was a problem (sleeping) and swallow the fact that i now need to rely on a machine to better my health... I will tell you my nose breathing is getting better and I know that only because I am noticing scents around me that I hadn't in the past.

I think you have to think of it not as needing a machine to breathe while asleep, rather you need a splint to hold open your airway so you can breathe better while you are asleep. It is a CAPA, not a ventilator. I also have not managed to train myself to keep my mouth shut while sleeping, ( struggle with that during the day too, but that's a different issue). I find a soft cervical collar more comfortable than a chinstrap, and it helps my neck feel better from a long-ago ski injury.

In Resmed world according to the manuals the n20 should be set as pillows and not nasal in the mask settings

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:37 pm

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:29 pm

Does Sleepyhead interpret the Nasal Mask setting as pillows?
I notice Pugsy’s and the original screens show Pillows instead of Nasal Mask.

Good catch. I missed that.

SleepyHead might have it wrong or he might have the wrong mask choice in the clinical setup menu.

OP needs to go into the clinical menu setup area and confirm the mask type selection...and it should be "nasal" for the N20.
It may affect the leak graph...and might be part of the reason for the elevated leak numbers.
I don't think it will make all the large leaks go away but it should help reduce them just a bit with the calculations it does prior to reporting excess leak.
From past experience when I have had the wrong mask type selection in the menu...maybe 3 L/min difference.
https://sleep.tnet.com/home/files/resme ... -guide.pdf
Sean...if you don't know how to change the mask type.....this manual will explain how.
I suggest you download it anyway because it has more info in it than the typical user manual.

Your sample screen shows that too. I hope you changed your mask setting to nasal first.

Jas_williams wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 pm

In Resmed world according to the manuals the n20 should be set as pillows and not nasal in the mask settings

Is that documented in the N20 literature? I must admit I have not used a nasal mask but am just aware of the menu settings on my AirSense 10 AutoSet.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:25 am

Your sample screen shows that too. I hope you changed your mask setting to nasal first.

The setting shows the most current setting...it doesn't show what might have been used on an individual night if I was trying a different kind of mask. Settings are general settings and not necessarily reflective of minor changes in one night.

Like when I tried the DreamWear full face mask...I forgot to change it the first night...second night I changed it and that's how I spotted very minor difference in the baseline leak with the mask setting change.
But once the FFM experiment was over I switched back to pillows and those FFM reports now show pillows because that's the setting now.

Not sure if mask setting change will show up in the "changes in prescription" area...never thought about it.
The DreamWear is on its way back to me and I plan to try it again with other modifications to try to get it more stable. I will pay closer attention to the mask setting this time.

My past experience with ResMed mask selection...big whoopie. I don't think it is that critical of an issue one way or the other but that's just my opinion based on having the wrong mask selected when doing experiments and not being able to spot any real repercussions from it. The worst thing that I ever saw was a change in the leak base line with nasal pillow vs full face mask...and that was at most 5 L/min difference and for me that's not a big deal at all. I think there is a lot more wiggle room in this stuff than people want to believe. But...that's just my opinion and people are free to have their own and be different from mine.

Jas_williams wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 pm

In Resmed world according to the manuals the n20 should be set as pillows and not nasal in the mask settings

Not surprised...the mask resistance and vent rate for the 2 masks are probably almost identical.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:27 am

Jas_williams wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 pm

In Resmed world according to the manuals the n20 should be set as pillows and not nasal in the mask settings

Is that documented in the N20 literature? I must admit I have not used a nasal mask but am just aware of the menu settings on my AirSense 10 AutoSet.

It is in the booklet provided with the mask and here

https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... ac_eng.pdf

Page 15
For AirSense, AirCurve and S9: Select 'Pillows'.
For other devices: Select 'SWIFT' (if available), otherwise select 'MIRAGE' as the mask option.

Jas_williams wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 pm

In Resmed world according to the manuals the n20 should be set as pillows and not nasal in the mask settings

I read this on the boards and confirmed with the n20 manual. My DME setup with NASAL but I switched it to PILLOWS sometime after 1 week of use under the assumption it would help my leak data.

I also believe my mouth breathing has decreased significantly because I went from using 1 full tank of water per night down to 1/2 tank (setting#4).

Last night appears to be better, I feel no more or less rested than usual.