TAP PAP Nasal Pillow Mask - anyone tried it?

wrote: Now I use the Bleep....no head gear and no mouth guard to have to mess with.

I guess you are using a clip to hold the hose, avoiding puling your nose, if not it is recommended. The Bleep looks good, but doesn't complete my requirements. I prefer a mask with ventilation that comes from bed head, above my head and the main benefit for me is that the Tap Pap has a Mouthpiece that helps me to avoid the teeth grinding at night.
Too bad that Tap Pap is not a standard mask for the AirMini CPAP, but as you know I found a solution to connect it directly to the AirMini Humidifier.

Avis wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 am

I guess you are using a clip to hold the hose, avoiding puling your nose, if not it is recommended.

You would be guessing wrong....and it's not recommended if it is not needed.
Nothing extra is ever recommended for anything unless there is a need because there is a problem.
I have no need for anything to stop the hose from pulling on my nose because it simply doesn't pull on my nose with the way I route the hose.
Been using the Bleep for over a year now. I think I have it worked out pretty well what I need or don't need.

The TapPap is a nice mask and especially a nice mask if a person needs a mouth guard for some reason. Kill two birds with one stone kind of thing.

Since I first starting using cpap over 10 years ago (coming on 11 in May) I have always said..."I wish I could figure out some way to stick these nasal pillow to my nose and ditch the headgear"....I have said it dozens of time to my husband over the years.
Finally someone came up with a mask that would do what I have been saying for years that I wanted to do.
Stuart did the Bleep. No it's not totally perfect but he is actively working on improving it....and it is perfect enough for me even now since it takes care of my main complaint about any nasal mask...the headgear.

Now I could use the TapPap I suppose but while the mouth guard wasn't a big deal....it was still there and made my bite feel a bit weird in the mornings for a short period of time (and this was a bit annoying) and now I don't even need that to be happy with the mask.
The TapPap would be especially nice if it had diffused venting.

Everyone has their own personal preferences, wants and needs when it comes to any mask. Everyone is different and that's why we have so many people preferring different masks for different reasons. The beauty of it....everyone gets a choice.

Ok... Currently I'm using a No Mask double mouth piece (occasional mouth breathing issue) with a home made frame holding an Adams Circuit shell

Do you think I could epoxy a bottom mouth guard on it? Reason here is that the Adams Circuit shell is just a tiny bit flat and contacts the very end of my septum.

[edit - after a tiny bit of due diligence]

Looked at AM's site and called them. They do have the Tap Pap CS product which has a double mouth guard but it's a "real" dental appliance and not boil-n-bite. That means a dentist with impressions and getting it made... Superior but I'm guessing we're talking around $600 or so starting price (have to call a couple of the dentists that carry them).

What are peoples' here impression of the device? Is it pretty much bullet proof? Like the Adams Circuit shells which are pretty much indestructible? Or like the No Mask product where the plastic seems to degrade and maybe cracks after 6 months or a year?

I used it for almost five years. I like it because it has no stripes and stable in the face, it does not move overnight, no leaks. Recently, I'm using it only during my noon nap, because I started to suffer from air leaking from my mouth. I had to move to Full Face mask, but instead that, I'm using the Bleep + Plaster, adhesive tape strip on my mouth.

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I should have followed up...

Fantastic. fit, adjustable, silent exhaust, built really well, seems to be very durable. Perfect.
For the double mouthpiece... I'm fairly good with my hands. Bought a replacement mouthpiece. Cut off the piece/adapter that attaches to the mask, inverted it and epoxied to the bottom of the original mouthpiece. Just a little tricky to boil'n'fit both top and bottom simultaneously.

First time using a nasal pillow with an APAP machine.
Couple of easy question if anyone can help me out.

I notice there are some medical tapes on the market where you seal your mouth when using the pillow - but wouldn't it meant that you breath out via our nostrils?
If so- aren't you breathing out CO2 and breathing in the same CO2?

When you are awake -isn't it the natural tendency to breath out via the mouth?

erlee wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:58 pm

First time using a nasal pillow with an APAP machine.
Couple of easy question if anyone can help me out.

I notice there are some medical tapes on the market where you seal your mouth when using the pillow - but wouldn't it meant that you breath out via our nostrils?
If so- aren't you breathing out CO2 and breathing in the same CO2?

When you are awake -isn't it the natural tendency to breath out via the mouth?

No. There are vent holes in all masks so that when we exhale the CO2 laden air goes out through the vent holes into the normal room air and dissipates.

And no...when awake I will normally inhale and exhale through my nose.
The mouth isn't involved unless my nose is stopped up or I am exercising and just breathing harder.
Normal at rest breathing all is via nose....inhale and exhale.