Do WE have a disability?

leholst wrote:Hey Telly,

I've always admired you as a "stand up guy"........one of those guys that I see on screen that, although I know you're acting, you're really just who you are! And one of those guys that I'd like to have lunch with on a lazy hazy LA afternoon. Ain't a lot of guys I say that about! What's going on with your career?

I'm not exactly acting. Call it "taking on a role". You know, the guy who is overwhelmingly positive, funny and friendly (and a bit "off" shall we say). Oh, yeah. That's acting. But then again, that's me. I'm all those things. Oh well. I am who I am, and I can't help but be a little offbeat. My voice actually does come through in my writing, though, I think. It ain't acting. I really am a nut. Also probably why I'm still single.

Speaking of actors, my parents think I'm Jack Black's living clone after watching "High Fidelity" (BTW, if m'man JB doesn't have OSA, I'd be surprised). Anyway, I'm down for lunch anyday in sunny LA. PM me whenever.

My Career? How nice of you to ask. I'm a film guy. I saw that there's another editor here on board. Josh, is it?

My career is taking on new directions now that I've landed here. I've written books about film editing and graphics in the past, worked for Steve in NoCal at the fruit computer company, and helped the folks out with that animated "fish" movie your kids love.

Now that I'm in LA, I am teaching film editing at a noteworthy trade school (ironically, one that I actually graduated from). I'm here to work on the big show, though. I want to edit feature films. I've already done some small ones and am even listed in the IMDB. So, I'm ready to take it to the next level. I also want to write and direct feature films. I've written two features and am working up the shot sheet and storyboard for a film I am directing about a famous baseball figure (but I don't want to say more than that).

IOW, I am looking so forward to getting my morning energy back. It takes a lot of energy to "take over Hollywood". ...

Didn't Telly die in 1994?

hairnet wrote:Didn't Telly die in 1994?

Well, I guess at least he's not covered by the ADA.

OCO

leholst wrote:I don't give a frig what anyone else says, I'm going to list it on my application.

You won't get hired if you put this on your application.

As an overweight person, please don't come crying in here when you don't get hired.

blarg wrote:I have a disability, but the treatment means I'm not disabled. We're quite lucky in the scheme of things.

Right on! That is so on point.

The leagal point may be different, and left to one more schooled than me, but personally I'm going with blarg's deffinition.

OwlCreekObserver wrote:

hairnet wrote:Didn't Telly die in 1994?

Well, I guess at least he's not covered by the ADA.

OCO

Well actauly he may be, he is after all - "Life-chalanged".

I guess I've always had the wrong kind of jobs. The job's I worked at were under the guidelines of the "Can't Law", That rule states, "If you can't cut it, you can't stay". Jim

Having to use XPAP, isn't a disability, it's a inconvence, so are most problems in life, losing a arm or leg or control of your mind is a disability.

Anything to get plugged into the Gravy Train, no wonder our borders leak like a sieve.

This subject has come up numerous times and the following link is one of that is used for reference information.

http://www.jan.wvu.edu/media/JobAccommo ... ocess.html

Technically, it's a disability.....but if it's being successfully treated, it should no longer be a factor in job performance.

If I was applying for a job, I damn sure wouldn't list it as a "disability"......it would be a guarantee of not being hired.
It's one thing to discover you have it when you're already employed, but another to claim it when trying to seek employment.....especially if a person is fully functional by using this therapy.

And Lloyd......I agree with krousseau......your remarks have nothing to do with political correctness regarding obesity and laziness......just stupidity.
There......I won't be PC either.

Den

another link similar to Wulfman's post, from the lightbulb/ADA
cpaptalk-articles/CPAP-ADA-FMLA-disability.html

When I look at my 9 year old, and all he is going to deal with throughout his life with a REAL disability,I consider my OSA merely an inconvenience.

This has been an interesting thread to watch and ponder. I've known several people I would consider handicapped..................and it's funny...............they all think of themselves as challenged. They frequently refer to their "handicaps" as inconveniences. It's those who are looking for a Social Security gravy train who loudly tout their "handicaps"...................or at least that's been my observation. My Grandfather had one of his legs mangled under the wheels of a freight train when he was 9 years old. He had a wooden leg the rest of his life. Did it handicap him? Heck no, he grew up and became an architect, a very successful one, and his wooden leg was an inconvenience, that's all. It was hardly ever mentioned. I think "handicap" is more an attitude than a lifestyle.

hairnet wrote:Didn't Telly die in 1994?

Yes, he did.

leholst wrote: I don't give a frig what anyone else says, I'm going to list it on my application.

I wouldn't put it down on an application. Actually, I wouldn't put it in writing anywhere. In addition to possibly preventing you from getting hired (though you'd never be told that was the reason), once it's a matter of record, it could affect your ability to get your driver's license renewed and your ability to get life insurance and health insurance. I can't see any benefit to you in listing OSA as a disability, especially since it is being treated and therefore would have no bearing on your work performance. Just my opinion.

Guess you could say I have an agenda--it has to do with OSA and all it's related conditions. Obesity and OSA are related. Check out this link and see just a few of the people you insulted and demeaned. It isn't about being PC it is called respect for self and others. If that is another agenda I have it too.

viewtopic.php?t=3368&highlight=weigh

The issue of disability is a tricky one--before being hired claiming a disability could be a barrier to being hired and it would be difficult to prove it was the reason for not being hired. On the other hand if you are disabled in a major area of daytime function because of your OSA and you didn't say yes on the application--then a couple months after hire it becomes a bigger problem--then your employer has two things against you. I'd check it out with an HR person before saying yes. If you claim a disability be prepared to say what accomodations you are requesting. figure out what your motivation is in claiming a disability.

Is it a disability--probably is for a lot of people and not for others--it is connected to so many other physical and mental health issues that can affect daytime functioning. But, I also think you have to be discrete in how you use the disability issue--and I probably wouldn't have the nerve to tell a quad that I had a disability.

And yes-THE Telly has the ultimate disabilty.

But the woman who is 100lbs overweight and doesn't want to work and wants to claim disability........put ME FIRST over her! She's not disabled - she's lazy!

Lloyd--Do you realize how many people here on this forum that you have insulted and demeaned?
To begin with--OSA and obesity are often related--it is often hard to get out of bed and go to the gym, when all night long you have been gasping for air!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!! You should know what that feels like--otherwise you wouldn't be here!!! Right now I have to agree with Wulfman--I think after that statement--your disability is stupidity.

If you want to play on people's sympathy--and claim you have a disability--then feel free to go right ahead and do that. Why would you want to put it on a job application and hinder your chance at getting a job, if your OSA is under control with your CPAP?
You should consider yourself blessed--there are people here who have lost lifelong careers, because their therapy was not working for them, and until they found this board, the only answers they could find were from DME's or docs who weren't willing to listen to them, they have also lost their health because of untreated apnea...many of those people have responded to your past posts--offering you encouragement and well wishes for a successful start to your therapy--and now you call them fat and lazy...

As for me--yes--I have sleep apnea--but it is well managed--and not a hindrance anymore to my everyday life--nor is it a disability--for that I am blessed. Just as a well controlled diabetic is able to function in everyday life--I am also able to function due to my successful treatment. Not everyone with OSA has that smooth of a road. and then--think of all the people who don't know about this forum, and do not have the resources you and I have had to help make our therapy a success.

Initially I thought you were a nice person, who was so excited to learn what you could learn about your OSA and enthusiastic to make your treatment work. But on this issue, Lloyd, you are barking up the wrong tree.