Libido vs. Therapy

Sleepy-eyes · Post by **Sleepy-eyes** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:35 pm

JeffH wrote:
blarg wrote:My libido is apparently about where it should be for a 23 year old now.
To be 23 again....

No thanks! I'm quite happy where I am. I'm just hoping to get off this testosterone shot thing. I hate pills, shots, and anything else that isn't naturally produced by my own body. I eat healthy. I'm in the gym 3 days a week. I'm 61 1/2 years old and am in better shape than I was at 35. I just want to be in better shape on the inside as well as the outside! I'm hoping this therapy.........if I ever get it going good..........will correct most of the things I have to take pills for.

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:40 pm

Sleepy-eyes, I believe the Testosterone used in the Testocreme is a natural one, you might want to check on that.

Sleepy-eyes · Post by **Sleepy-eyes** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:49 pm

Thanks for the tip. But I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm sick and tired of traditional medicine's approach of treating symptoms and ignoring the problems. I'm tired of pills, shots, creams, remedies, etc. which only treat the "itch". I want to know what causes it and how to correct it. I'm under the understanding that once this apnea problem is corrected, my body will naturally take back it's logical position as controller of itself. My original question was just to see if anyone could really verify they've noted a natural increase in their libido.

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:00 pm

Understood...I did not mean to get off topic talking about the Testosterone.

When I was diagnosed as having a low level of it....they did all kinds of tests, and came up empty handed....for some reason, I have low levels of Testosterone, but no glaring reason why. So, the only alternative was Testosterone therapy, or go without, which is not a good thing for a man.

Even after I started Cpap therapy some 13 years ago, I still had low levels, low enough to warrant the Testosterone therapy as well.

bbeck4x4 · Post by **bbeck4x4** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:59 pm

just following along, I'm also on androGel wishing that I didn't need it any longer now that the apnea is under control, I did try to reduce dosage from the max of 8 pumps per day to 6 with undesirable results, (fatigue, achy muscles, and felt like I was walking through a foot of water all day)

although the androGel is way better than the once every two weeks shots. the highs and lows are balanced and even with the androGel. I was a wreck with the shots.

I'm planning on seeing a endocrinologists at the start of the new year and see if they have any options.

Brian

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:24 am

BBeck, I know what you mean...the gel is certainly better than the shots...I had the same reactions, highs and lows constantly.

I can highly recommend the Testocreme. Much less expensive than the Androgel, if that is a factor for you.....it also takes longer to go through a jar of it. I believe they use some type of natural Testosterone for it as well. I use 1/4 tsp 2x a day. It's not a gel, but a beige color creme that disappears within seconds, and does not contain alcohol and does not sting. All your endocrinologist would have to do is call the CAPRX Pharmacy and submit the prescription and they will mail it to you.

http://caprx.com/

http://www.testocreme.com/

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CollegeGirl · Post by **CollegeGirl** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:23 am

Since there's always so little feminine voice heard in "libido" threads, I'm adding mine, darn it.

Post-CPAP, mine is now back to where it should be for a 28-year-old.

Now, if only I didn't go to a women's college.

We now return you to the guys talking about testosterone.

bbeck4x4 · Post by **bbeck4x4** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:33 am

the cost is soon going to be a factor, my insurance is changing in Jan. could you pm me some pricing info, ?

/tongue in cheek mode on/

so what good is a increased libido in a womens dorm

glad to hear it though

/tongue in cheek mode off/

Sleepy-eyes · Post by **Sleepy-eyes** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:38 am

Thanks, College Girl. My original question was concerning libido, and you and a couple of others have answered that question directly. (by the way, you might try a co-ed school)

Limestone · Post by **Limestone** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:31 pm

My libido returned to the level that I remember during my twenties( i'm now 45) after about a month of treatment.Not sure why ,but I'M BACK.I am finding that some of the things I had attributed to growing old are actually OSA symptoms.This treatment works!And in the immortal words of Davie Jones "I'm a believer"

Sleepy-eyes · Post by **Sleepy-eyes** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:45 pm

Limestone wrote:I am finding that some of the things I had attributed to growing old are actually OSA symptoms.This treatment works!

That's what I've been reading. I'm at an age where I surely don't feel old, but certainly from the viewpoint of someone in their 20's I must seem very old. (funny how that happens) But I'm learning that with proper exercise and eating healthy, along with a proper regimen of vitamins and minerals, we can live well beyond the accepted norm. I believe we can live healthy and vital lives well into our 90's..........if not 100's! We just have to take good care of ourselves.....................which I have not really done in my past. I just hope it's not too late. That's why I'm glad to have found Sleep Therapy. Just hope I can get used to it and make it all happen.

kteague · Post by **kteague** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:50 am

College Girl - Can't accuse you of not being "real", can we? How many PMs did you get after that post? (Just kidding!!)

Do ya think part of the reason women don't get involved in this subject as much is that we don't have quite as much at stake? I mean, from strictly a functional perspective, women can still enjoy the intimacy even if the mad passion isn't there.

Then there are those of us who are two and three times your age from an era when ladies didn't talk about "such things" in public. But you can believe women make up many of the over 400 who have viewed the thread! And part of it is being polite, acting like we don't notice something that may be embarrassing for the other person.

I just wish more men could not let their lack of sexual prowess cause them to avoid or sabotage relationships. That has happened twice in my life, and all else that the relationships had going for them was tainted by their assumption that I would not be content with them. Sad, because of all the men in my life (no numbers), both of these men I could have seen me spending the rest of my life with. I understand a man wanting all that he was designed to have. I also understand that is not the measure of a man.

As for my personal experience with cpap and libido, I wouldn't touch that point with a ten foot pole. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Kathy

telly · Post by **telly** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:08 pm

kteague wrote:I just wish more men could not let their lack of sexual prowess cause them to avoid or sabotage relationships. That has happened twice in my life, and all else that the relationships had going for them was tainted by their assumption that I would not be content with them. Sad, because of all the men in my life (no numbers), both of these men I could have seen me spending the rest of my life with. I understand a man wanting all that he was designed to have. I also understand that is not the measure of a man.

Sorry, just a little too sleep deprived to understand what you just wrote. I do know that it is probably not a good idea to lump all dudes into the same category, though. We are people too and we are all different.

Sleepy-eyes · Post by **Sleepy-eyes** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:48 pm

Kathy,

My post had absolutely nothing to do with "prowess"...........that was your assumption. Libido has to do with a desire to participate.............and that can be participation in a lot of different intimacies. I just want to enjoy being an active participant with my partner without poking needles in my body and injecting foreign materials. Men enjoy those intimacies also, you know. I just asked if anyone had noted an improvement. I apologize to you and anyone else who found my request offensive. Those of you who appreciate my question, I thank you for your candor.

kteague · Post by **kteague** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:21 pm

Telly - glad you've got that machine on the way. (Congratulations, by the way.)

My carefully worded "more men" indicates that I wasn't lumping all men in the same category. And, if you don't get what I was saying, be glad. That must mean that my description does not apply to you, and you must be a man who is open and honest in your relationship(s). Others may recognize themselves.

I'll bow out now and as CG said, let the men go back to discussing testosterone.

Kathy

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